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selfEvolution
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quote:
Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
This thread continues, wow. I say lets change it up a bit.


I don't think you've change anything "up a bit" - it's still more negative stereotyping based on generalized myths, this time, thinly veiled as self-degrading humor.

I know of plenty of gay guys who don't take it "in the butt", and there are plenty of heterosexuals who do - for evidence, read their letters to editors in Playboy, Playgirl and Hustler.

To paraphrase the emotionally intelligent Thomas Jefferson:

"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to cram cocks or toys up his or her butt, whether they be gay or straight. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. " -Thomas Jefferson, Notes to PlayColonists Magazine, 1782


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djjoshuaallen
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Originally posted by selfEvolution
I don't think you've change anything "up a bit" - it's still more negative stereotyping based on generalized myths, this time, thinly veiled as self-degrading humor.


You should really relax my friend. Did you know that this guy actually tours in gay bars around the country? That is why it is so comical to me, that he is actually for real. Straight, gay, whatever, its funny. Take a break from your search for material for your new book and have yourself a chuckle.

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selfEvolution
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quote:
Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
Take a break from your search for material for your new book and have yourself a chuckle.


The above statement assumes too much - Call me coo-coo, but I've been joking and laughing with friends and staff most of the weekend and today. (I've done a few stand-up acts before). As I noted, the video you posted definitely has "humor" but it's still self-degrading in my humble opinion. It buys into the hate-filled stereotype that's too often seen all over the net, where homophobia is expressed by reducing entire groups to "fudge packers". There is nothing funny about that.

As noted before, gay marriage may not be a serious issue for some, but it is for millions of people. Nevertheless, you would never catch me telling anyone when to "chuckle" or not - I'm merely making an expression that I'm sure many NONheterosexuals would agree with - not all of "them" think alike nor "chuckle" at the same things.

LOL - and I don't think you read my "relaxed" quote? - (which in this context can have more than one meaning). It's a paraphrased quote from Thomas Jefferson. That's my idea of humor which doesn't have to falsely stereotype or single out any specific group.....so exxxccccuzzzz me.

Peace,
Chris


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in2muzikk
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Saw on CNN that Obama has been studying the writings of Abraham Lincoln a lot these days. Word is that Abe was gay*, so things get more interesting...




* In The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror XIX one of the segments highlighted Lincoln's sexuality, ending with Lincoln squeezing Homer's rear end. Source: Wikipedia


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selfEvolution
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I've been advocating all along that the emotions and ignorance of the masses should never dictate the rights of minorities, and as predicted, the California Supreme Court is going to review the discriminatory vote against "gay" marriage based on those grounds. In a true democracy, freedom is based on the rights of the *individual*, not the entire group who try to dictate what should be "normal".

Who or what is "normal"? The fact is, being *different* is *normal* because we're ALL *different*.... unless you're marching goose-step with some militant, elitist group or army which deems itself better than so-called "minorities".

E Pluribus Unum (Of many, ONE) was on our coins as early as 1786, long before "In God We Trust" appeared in 1864...and for those who believe in the alleged "god" the question should be, due to centuries of slavery, war and homophobia, "Does God Trust US". It's a relevant question because too many church-going "Christians" obviously do not live by their god's Golden Rule. Fortunately, as we evolve, more and more Christians are apprehending something my atheists friends have been advocating for decades:

That we are all minorities, and when we lesson the rights and respect towards one minority group, we lesson our humanity, our nation and the world. Here was an opportunity to build bridges, and instead of building those bridges of tolerance and understanding, so-called "Christians" built bigger and higher walls of inequality and division. Divided we fail, united in equality, we straighten the greater bonds that make us all equality members of the same human family.

From Equality California:

California Supreme Court Grants Review
in Prop 8 Legal Challenges

Court to Determine Constitutionality of Prop 8

Today the California Supreme Court granted review in the legal challenges to Proposition 8, which passed by a narrow margin of 52 percent on November 4. In an order issued today, the Court agreed to hear the case and set an expedited briefing schedule. The Court also denied an immediate stay.

On November 5, 2008, the National Center for Lesbian Rights, the American Civil Liberties Union, and Lambda Legal filed a lawsuit challenging the validity of Proposition 8 in the California Supreme Court on behalf of six couples and Equality California. The City of San Francisco, joined by the City of Los Angeles, the County of Los Angeles, and Santa Clara County, filed a similar challenge, as did a private attorney in Los Angeles.

The lawsuits allege that, on its face, Proposition 8 is an improper revision rather than an amendment of the California Constitution because, in its very title, which was "Eliminates the right to marry for same-sex couples," the initiative eliminated an existing right only for a targeted minority. If permitted to stand, Proposition 8 would be the first time an initiative has successfully been used to change the California Constitution to take way an existing right only for a particular group. Such a change would defeat the very purpose of a constitution and fundamentally alter the role of the courts in protecting minority rights. According to the California Constitution, such a serious revision of our state Constitution cannot be enacted through a simple majority vote, but must first be approved by two-thirds of the Legislature.

Since the three lawsuits submitted on November 5, three other lawsuits challenging Proposition 8 have been filed. In a petition filed on November 14, 2008, leading African American, Latino, and Asian American groups argued that Proposition 8 threatens the equal protection rights of all Californians.

On November 17, 2008, the California Council of Churches and other religious leaders and faith organizations representing millions of members statewide, also filed a petition asserting that Proposition 8 poses a severe threat to the guarantee of equal protection for all, and was not enacted through the constitutionally required process for such a dramatic change to the California Constitution. On the same day, prominent California women's rights organizations filed a petition asking the Court to invalidate Proposition 8 because of its potentially disastrous implications for women and other groups that face discrimination.

In May of 2008, the California Supreme Court held that barring same-sex couples from marriage violates the equal protection clause of the California Constitution and violates the fundamental right to marry among two, consenting adults. Proposition 8 would completely eliminate the right to marry only for same-gender couples. No other initiative has ever successfully changed the California Constitution to take away a right only from a targeted minority group.

Over the past 100 years, the California Supreme Court has heard nine cases challenging either legislative enactments or initiatives as invalid revisions of the California Constitution. In three of the most recent cases, the Court invalidated those measures.


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That was too funny!

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