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Originally posted by elFreak is education basic? what about military spending? Darwinian perspectives do not work in a society where you are not born equal. A more intelligent, stronger person born in a poor environment can still not have as much chance to achieve the success that a stupid weak individual from a higher income background does. Humans are not wild animals. If you need proof of this just look at the current President.

elfreak talks sense when he's not slinging shit!

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Yes, but if we're all paying for this health care system then eventually we'd all opt out of our private health care because why would people pay for both? Eventually we'd all be feeding off the government in my postulation.

actually, private and public health system can co-exist quite happily.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel The US federal and the state budgets need a FULL revamp but no one wants to sit down and go through it all and make sense of it.

Actually thats exactly what Obama has promised to do over and over for the whole campaign.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Yes, but if we're all paying for this health care system then eventually we'd all opt out of our private health care because why would people pay for both?

Because you want more care than the basics that the government plan would give you? A number of countries have hybrid insurance systems, btw, like Germany.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Funny thing is that people disagree about which functions of government are "basic."

exactly.

this is known as construction of the consitution

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Originally posted by Gouverneur Morris We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

what is 'welfare'?
what is 'justice'?
who are 'ourselves'?
what are blessings and liberty?

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Originally posted by elFreak is education basic?

I'd rather education be privatized but I know that won't ever happen so I don't really delve into it. As far as military, I think that ought to be government oriented, but I do want to strictly maintain the second Amendment.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN elfreak talks sense when he's not slinging shit!

dammit i'm doing it wrong

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN actually, private and public health system can co-exist quite happily.

"Can", maybe, but I don't have as much faith in that happening with the United States government.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN one can hate blacks and still have black friends. just as i hate conservatives but still have conservative friends. having black friends does not excuse one when making racist remarks.

If you was a true racist, why would you have black friends if you claim to hate them, that makes no sense.

If I hated black people I certainly would not befriend them!

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