the series was over before they even announced the 2-7 seeds for playoffs

leik srsly. That was one of the most BRUTAL defeats I've seen in a long time. I didn't see the game Houston won by 50 earlier this year, but tonight's game was just ridiculous. The best part was seeing Kobe look like he wanted to kill Kwame Brown . Boy, do I hate Kobe.

In other news, as noted yesterday:

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Originally posted by shaw [The Heat] simply cannot do anything about Deng & Gordon

53 points for the two of them tonight. Utter destruction. Not Nash/Barbosa destruction, but those two are such horrendous match-ups for Miami. They just don't have anybody who can cover either one of them--especially Luol Deng. Unless they both start cooling off dramatically (Deng's only really started getting hot lately, but Gordon's basically been on fire since the end of last year), Miami's le screwed. I just don't see how they can defend the two of them--especially since they have to put Wade on Deng, which is a joke.

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how can you hate kobe? cuz he's too good? cuz he's the best offensive player ever 2 play the game...yea he's better than jordan (stop living in the past)!! KOBE+GARNETT=championship next year

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Originally posted by fmodena369 how can you hate kobe? cuz he's too good? cuz he's the best offensive player ever 2 play the game...yea he's better than jordan (stop living in the past)!! KOBE+GARNETT=championship next year

Does crack taste good?

Silliest comment I've ever seen on TA. Surpases your earlier comment. Sorry man, your credibility is shot.

Scoring points doesn't equate to best offensive player. There is other aspects of the game like passing. Plus, if we're strictly talking scoring Jordan averaged 37 pts a game one year. The Rapist never matched that.

Most people like me hate the Rapist because he's an arrogant rapist. He has the morality of a douche bag.

His Airness 6 championships. The rapist 3 (and zero without Shaq).

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I love the Suns, but please, can someone play defense against them? You see guys running there like they are playing with a bunch of middle schoolers. A little more defense from the Lakers, and the series would be worth to watch.

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Originally posted by Member of X Does crack taste good? Silliest comment I've ever seen on TA. Surpases your earlier comment. Sorry man, your credibility is shot. Scoring points doesn't equate to best offensive player. There is other aspects of the game like passing. Plus, if we're strictly talking scoring Jordan averaged 37 pts a game one year. The Rapist never matched that. Most people like me hate the Rapist because he's an arrogant rapist. He has the morality of a douche bag. His Airness 6 championships. The rapist 3 (and zero without Shaq).

haha my credibility is shot because I KNOW basketball and go out on a limb and say something not many ppl agree with?? Why do I think KOBE BRYANT is the best OFFENSIVE player every 2 play? HERE WE GO

1) I dont remember any 7 footers that play like shooting guards back in jordans days (Nowitzki,Wallace)? 7 footers that are freakish athletes that can jump on top of the hoop (Amare, D-Howard, Garnett, J-Oneal)?
2) Who were Jordans defenders when he was playing? I cant even think of 1 Shooting Guard that is even CLOSE to the caliber to the likes of hmm lets think here...LEBRON, WADE, MELO, did Jordan have to guard players like those, no KOBE does. Jordan averaged 37.1 points in 1986-87, take a guess who was all defensive team for guards that year? Done thinking....Alvin Robertson and Dennis Johnson? Those players as good as the Shooting guards 2day?
3)Jordan was surrounded by one of if not THE BEST supporting cast, players that played because they KNEW their role in each game, provide Jordan with defense and score when needed. Does Kobe have that now? Smush is a GREAT point guard who looks to pass first..uh yea right. biggest #1 draft pick EVER kwame brown..all he does is try to show ppl he was worthy of the #1 pick..which will NEVER HAPPEN!!! lamar odom is a scrub and is NO scottie pippen (top 50 greatest players) and would've been much better individual player if he hadn't of played with Jordan, believe that! Sasha the new Steve Kerr..i dont think so? Ronny Turiaf the new Dennis Rodman..not enough hustle..u see a pattern here????
4) Western Conference vs Eastern Conference...DAMN that's hard to choose!
5)KOBE 81 pts and didnt even play the entire 4th? His RIDICULOUS 50+ points streak, only Wilt has accomplished more, scoring at least 50 seven straight times. Where's MJ in that discussion?
6) LOL at shaq and kobe comparison...yea kobe won with shaq and shaq one with kobe...shaq also won with the HEAT..and he carried his old body through the ENTIRE playoffs...DWYANE WADE..so SHAQ will NEVER win a championship on his own JUST LIKE KOBE!!!!
7)You put Kobe Bryant in 1986-1987 with the skills he posssess today, he EASILY could've matched jordans 37.1 pts per game. He could fuckin do it this god damn year if lakers were in the EAST, give me a break!
8)Kobe and Phil Jackson go into every game knowing they have absolutely NO supporting cast, filled with selfish players that dont play their ROLE! I don't remember hearing any of Jordans players going on a snowboarding trip during the all star game...injuring himself for 2 months and LYING to the team about it! "He admitted last week he lied to the Lakers when he said he fell on a patch of ice. He apologized to coach Phil Jackson and general manager Mitch Kupchak."
9) Kobe "the Raper"...hmmm go 2 the MOST ATTRACTIVE females in a bar 2nite..ask them if they'd sleep with KOBE BRYANT, what would their response be? There response would be the same as that dumb bitch in colorado, "OMG WHERE AND WHEN!?!?"
10)KOBE is playing against all odds, he's 2 selfish, he's a cheater, elbows too much, not a team player, shoots 2 much, shoots not enough, passes 2 much...needs 2 stop passing and shoot more..what do critics of kobe want him 2 fuckin do!? Give him players that Jordan was surrounded by back in the day and he'd also have 6 fuckin rings!
11)YES you are right about offense including assists...well lets take last nites game...how many shots did kobe take? 13!!!! what was final score 126-98, how many lakers missed WIDE open shots because every single SUNS players attention was on KOBE..there were PLENTY of missed shots, even tho kobe did all he could 2 get them open shots. Sorry no steve kerr sharpshooting, ron harper mid range game, scottie pippens all around superb game, and the hustle of rodman and rebounding and clogging the lane of longley. Game 1 of suns vs lakers...15/33 for 39 points, carrying the entire team on his back throughout the 1st half...sorry he cant do it the entire fuckin game give him sum help..o wait his supporting cast CANT!!! He scores they lose by 8. If kobe passes the ball to an open man 20 times in a game...does that mean he's going to get 20 assists...maybe if your playing on a team like the suns...not the lakers

I know not many people are going to agree with me and that's fine, this was a way to show my view and my knowledge of these 2 players, now lets have the debate live on!

^dont think an ESPN anchor could have put it better. but i'll add in my 2 cents as well. Kobe is an NBA freak of nature. At 27, he has already won three NBA championships, not many players can say that. And this jordan vs. kobe tripe? give me a break. The scary thing is that Kobe is barely nearing his prime. To put his game in perspective all you have to do is look at Jordan’s performance against Cleveland in 1990. Jordan, also 27 at the time, scored 69 points – but needed overtime to secure the win. Kobe, 27, dropped 81 like it was just another day. After that bullshit "rape" case, he was left for dead by the media and fans. But his mentality brought him back to life. He is by far the hardest working athlete in the NBA since Jordan. You have to admire his perseverance. Let the haters hate, and we're talkin about an individual player here, not who's team is better. like it or not, kobe is the best.

Seek counseling immediately.

Like I would read that long a post on TA. lol

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Originally posted by fmodena369 haha my credibility is shot because I KNOW basketball and go out on a limb and say something not many ppl agree with?? Why do I think KOBE BRYANT is the best OFFENSIVE player every 2 play? HERE WE GO 1) I dont remember any 7 footers that play like shooting guards back in jordans days (Nowitzki,Wallace)? 7 footers that are freakish athletes that can jump on top of the hoop (Amare, D-Howard, Garnett, J-Oneal)? 2) Who were Jordans defenders when he was playing? I cant even think of 1 Shooting Guard that is even CLOSE to the caliber to the likes of hmm lets think here...LEBRON, WADE, MELO, did Jordan have to guard players like those, no KOBE does. Jordan averaged 37.1 points in 1986-87, take a guess who was all defensive team for guards that year? Done thinking....Alvin Robertson and Dennis Johnson? Those players as good as the Shooting guards 2day? 3)Jordan was surrounded by one of if not THE BEST supporting cast, players that played because they KNEW their role in each game, provide Jordan with defense and score when needed. Does Kobe have that now? Smush is a GREAT point guard who looks to pass first..uh yea right. biggest #1 draft pick EVER kwame brown..all he does is try to show ppl he was worthy of the #1 pick..which will NEVER HAPPEN!!! lamar odom is a scrub and is NO scottie pippen (top 50 greatest players) and would've been much better individual player if he hadn't of played with Jordan, believe that! Sasha the new Steve Kerr..i dont think so? Ronny Turiaf the new Dennis Rodman..not enough hustle..u see a pattern here???? 4) Western Conference vs Eastern Conference...DAMN that's hard to choose! 5)KOBE 81 pts and didnt even play the entire 4th? His RIDICULOUS 50+ points streak, only Wilt has accomplished more, scoring at least 50 seven straight times. Where's MJ in that discussion? 6) LOL at shaq and kobe comparison...yea kobe won with shaq and shaq one with kobe...shaq also won with the HEAT..and he carried his old body through the ENTIRE playoffs...DWYANE WADE..so SHAQ will NEVER win a championship on his own JUST LIKE KOBE!!!! 7)You put Kobe Bryant in 1986-1987 with the skills he posssess today, he EASILY could've matched jordans 37.1 pts per game. He could fuckin do it this god damn year if lakers were in the EAST, give me a break! 8)Kobe and Phil Jackson go into every game knowing they have absolutely NO supporting cast, filled with selfish players that dont play their ROLE! I don't remember hearing any of Jordans players going on a snowboarding trip during the all star game...injuring himself for 2 months and LYING to the team about it! "He admitted last week he lied to the Lakers when he said he fell on a patch of ice. He apologized to coach Phil Jackson and general manager Mitch Kupchak." 9) Kobe "the Raper"...hmmm go 2 the MOST ATTRACTIVE females in a bar 2nite..ask them if they'd sleep with KOBE BRYANT, what would their response be? There response would be the same as that dumb bitch in colorado, "OMG WHERE AND WHEN!?!?" 10)KOBE is playing against all odds, he's 2 selfish, he's a cheater, elbows too much, not a team player, shoots 2 much, shoots not enough, passes 2 much...needs 2 stop passing and shoot more..what do critics of kobe want him 2 fuckin do!? Give him players that Jordan was surrounded by back in the day and he'd also have 6 fuckin rings! 11)YES you are right about offense including assists...well lets take last nites game...how many shots did kobe take? 13!!!! what was final score 126-98, how many lakers missed WIDE open shots because every single SUNS players attention was on KOBE..there were PLENTY of missed shots, even tho kobe did all he could 2 get them open shots. Sorry no steve kerr sharpshooting, ron harper mid range game, scottie pippens all around superb game, and the hustle of rodman and rebounding and clogging the lane of longley. Game 1 of suns vs lakers...15/33 for 39 points, carrying the entire team on his back throughout the 1st half...sorry he cant do it the entire fuckin game give him sum help..o wait his supporting cast CANT!!! He scores they lose by 8. If kobe passes the ball to an open man 20 times in a game...does that mean he's going to get 20 assists...maybe if your playing on a team like the suns...not the lakers I know not many people are going to agree with me and that's fine, this was a way to show my view and my knowledge of these 2 players, now lets have the debate live on!

the only argument i might totally have an issue with is eastern conference vs western conference (point #4). when jordan was playing i think the conferences were a little more balanced. the eastern conference was not the wasteland it is now. but then again, the east has won the two of the last three championships, so poo poo on western conference TOTAL dominance.

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Originally posted by fmodena369 how can you hate kobe? cuz he's too good? cuz he's the best offensive player ever 2 play the game...yea he's better than jordan (stop living in the past)!! KOBE+GARNETT=championship next year

Simply put, NO. He shoots more than Jordan and can't involve anybody else on the team. Yes, you said offensive player, but it's also important to note that Jordan was a perennial all-defensive team selection and Kobe can't be arsed to so much as get back.

That's not why I hate him, though. I hate him because he's an arrogant prick and a ball-hog who can't take responsibility for anything he does, has no humility, and whines and bitches whenever he doesn't get his way.

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