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Originally posted by Spartan wow you guys are forgetting that Ben is only 24, that he probably had the best rookie numbers of any QB ever, and that he has a career 64% completion rate, and his win-loss numbers are still hall of fame pace level. He goes in and out of the hospital a few times and has a poor start to this season as a result (not to mention not having hines ward for a while) and you guys forget what he was doing the last two seasons. Yah he plays for a running team but you measure the skill of a QB on his ability to throw in 3rd down situations, and Ben is one of the best at doing that. He is proven in the clutch, and can put a game on his shoulders like when he played Cinncinati in the playoffs last year.

Spot on.


Take that lancealot.

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Now we have done the best QB debate. Whos the worst? Surely us Raiders are in possesion of it?


I cant think of anyone who comes close to his level of shitness.

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Originally posted by Spartan He is proven in the clutch, and can put a game on his shoulders like when he played Cinncinati in the playoffs last year.

did you forget about palmer getting injured badly that game and having to replace him with kitna? It was the equivalent of a chicken's head getting cut off.

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Originally posted by Michael19 Now we have done the best QB debate. Whos the worst? Surely us Raiders are in possesion of it? I cant think of anyone who comes close to his level of shitness.

kerry collins when sober and not playing for a contract



when he's drunk, he's dangerous

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Originally posted by Michael19 Now we have done the best QB debate. Whos the worst? Surely us Raiders are in possesion of it? I cant think of anyone who comes close to his level of shitness.

lol... I was always a strong supporter of Chris Simms being the worst, who actually was a franchise or to be franchise QB, but now that his career is pretty much over, I should look elsewhere...

Yeah its either got to be Brooks or Walter...

but, I want strong consideration for Aaron Rodgers... its obvious this kid can't do shit... if Pick City Favre is being scheduled for one more year in Green Bay... that just tells me that Rodgers is a BUST... therefore he must really suck if he can't take the job from Old Man Favre...

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Brooks over Walter. Brooks is pure shit, at least Walter has a one or two. Kurt Warner is right up there too. And I personally hate Jake Delhomme. Overrated piece of shit like all the Panthers. Both the McCown's give all these guys a run for their money too.

I don't think it's fair to say Aaron Rodgers is terrible. Favre has a lifetime pass in GB. I think he'll be good when he finally gets his shot.. although it might not be with Green Bay hahaha

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Originally posted by CraveTheRave Brooks over Walter. Brooks is pure shit, at least Walter has a one or two. Kurt Warner is right up there too. And I personally hate Jake Delhomme. Overrated piece of shit like all the Panthers. Both the McCown's give all these guys a run for their money too. I don't think it's fair to say Aaron Rodgers is terrible. Favre has a lifetime pass in GB. I think he'll be good when he finally gets his shot.. although it might not be with Green Bay hahaha

I hate Kurt Warner now and he's a crappy QB at the moment, granted, HOWEVER he is a TWO time NFL MVP!! And an MVP of the Super Bowl. I think this discussion is about QB's that just plain suck. Warner was disgustingly good for 3 years before he got knocked to kingdom come and broke his hands. All those hits since he held the ball until the last second made him lupey. Now crappy, before awesome.

Brooks is worse since he's been shit for years. Walters only half a season. David Carr is pretty piss poor! Mark Brunell is garbage. Ok now I'd add Vinny Testaverde to the mix. J.P. Losman is absolute trash. 4 straight games and he hasn't passed for over 115 yds in any of them. How does he keep his job? That obviously speaks highly of Kelly Holcomb.

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Originally posted by partyhopper Interesting move by the Pats - they sign Vinny Testaverde

This is either a genius move or a desperate move...

Genius: Brady is not hurt, but wants to make everyone think he is, like the way the Pats use the Injury List to their advantage week after week...

Desperate: Brady is hurt, and has been for the last two weeks, I'm not SURE, but its a rumor... I sure as hell hope he's not... he's been on vacation for two weeks now either way...

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Originally posted by Kapedan im happy, i just wanted a change, thats all.

yep a new qb in Washington is just what they need now to play better,Jason Campbell will throw the pass, run downfield to catch it, and then be his lead blocker in route to the endzone. He will also flag himself for excessive celebration.

WOW Vinny T(from da U) is back! but I dunno he ended his career so awesomely on a high last year it seemed... in that meaningless Monday Night game for the Jets when he became like the all time leader in TDs on Monday night football. Kinda sucks that he'll end his career now on the bench with such a shitty team thats been lookin like ass lately

speaking of da U, how weird the Deven Hester 108 yard TD run back which tied him with his teammate who did the same last year for the Bears as the longest play ever, also weird is Rex Grossmans performances lately, one game he's a god and Madden jerks off to him more than he ever did to Favre, and then in other game he's just gross ,man...so what I am trying to say is Grossman is 50% awesome, 50% Mike Tomzack

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Originally posted by Eddie N MIAMI Kinda sucks that he'll end his career now on the bench with such a shitty team thats been lookin like ass lately

No, no eddie, he isn't GOING back to school and starting at QB for da U...

He's going to join a Dynasty!

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