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skot_e
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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Adelaide

check this

Using the number that relates to the key the track is in you can:
-3
-1
+1
+4
+7

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davemolina
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Registered: May 2005
Location: San Antonio, USA

quote:
Originally posted by skot_e
Next is the automatic cue point, the automatic cross fade and then the automatic arrogant personality.
Soon to come the "look mum, no hands" approach.


LOL

Less time beatmatching and keying my tracks means I can practice my Jesus poses more.


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skot_e
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Location: Adelaide

Praise be to the lord, DJ Christ.

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petex2006
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harmonic mixing

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est
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Brighton/Orkney

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Subnautic
böh... back to the thread: witch intervals are ok for harmonic mixing?
i think only tracks with the same key go perfecly together; are there any other possibilities? (i heard the perfect fifth and fourth go fine with harmonic mixing, but i think it's sounding like *crap*)


No, thats true. It's becuase the any given key signature will have a very similar key signature to its 5th/4th (meaning they contain mostly the same notes), so they match nicely. You're right that tracks that are a perfect key match will go more nicely (as they are both the same key signatures, so they share all the same notes ) On the camelot easimix wheel, mixing with any adjacent key on the wheel will be compatible. e.g. if you are in Aminor, Cmajor, Eminor, and Dminor will sound good. Hope that makes sense!

EDIT: I've just re-read your post and noticed your use of the word 'perfect', and just thought I'd point out in case you're confused: perfect 4th/5th is just musical jargon to describe the size of an interval. It doesn't mean that the keys are a 'perfect' match! (though they are good intervals to work with) Sorry if you knew that already...just making sure

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Pinokio
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quote:
Originally posted by est
No, thats true. It's becuase the any given key signature will have a very similar key signature to its 5th/4th (meaning they contain mostly the same notes), so they match nicely. You're right that tracks that are a perfect key match will go more nicely (as they are both the same key signatures, so they share all the same notes ) On the camelot easimix wheel, mixing with any adjacent key on the wheel will be compatible. e.g. if you are in Aminor, Cmajor, Eminor, and Dminor will sound good. Hope that makes sense!

EDIT: I've just re-read your post and noticed your use of the word 'perfect', and just thought I'd point out in case you're confused: perfect 4th/5th is just musical jargon to describe the size of an interval. It doesn't mean that the keys are a 'perfect' match! (though they are good intervals to work with) Sorry if you knew that already...just making sure


Maybe he know alreayd, but anyways you helped me there =)

Thanks, your replies on the threads have been very helpful to me


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DJ Subnautic
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thanks. i knew what is ment by saying perfect 4th.
hehe. but thanks for you comment!


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Pinokio
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Registered: Oct 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by skot_e
check this

Using the number that relates to the key the track is in you can:
-3
-1
+1
+4
+7



so this means, if I am in 5A I can mix it with
2A
4A
6A
9A
12A


I don't understand why -3 or +4 would be compatible

I Think only this is ocmpatible +1, -1,
Energy Mixes = +7 (up one semitone), +2 (Up one tone), +5 (Down one semitone), -2 (Down one Tone).

so this means, if I am in 5A I can mix it with
5A (Tonic)
5B (Relative Major)
6A Perfect Fifth (Dominant)
4A Perfect Fourth(Sub-Dominant)
12A(half step jump)
7A (whole step jump)
10A (half step jump)
3A (whole step jump)



is 9A and 2A compatible, and why?, is this an energy mix?

I've heard that the worse mixes are supposed to be the keys that are next to each other, therefore that would be the +7, or +5, but actually if done very well, you can feel it sounds very nice.

so if they are supposed to be the worse mixes, if I Mix another songs properly, wherever is the keycode, it will alos sound fine?

Thanks.


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Pepa - Pure Bliss (June 2007 Promo)
Pepa - Visual Thoughts (March 2007 Promo)
Pepa - Trippin' Again

Mash-ups:
Perasma Vs BT - Swing 2 Gravity (Pepa Live Mash-up)
I Trance You!

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skot_e
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Can't tell you for certain as i haven't even got around to keying any of my tracks. I am novice at this. It is just something i picked up from reading the whole thread I think from Nem,
Go back to the start of the thread and go through each page looking for His posts. Afterall he started this thread.

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est
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Brighton/Orkney

quote:
Originally posted by Pinokio
so this means, if I am in 5A I can mix it with
2A
4A
6A
9A
12A


I don't understand why -3 or +4 would be compatible

I Think only this is ocmpatible +1, -1,
Energy Mixes = +7 (up one semitone), +2 (Up one tone), +5 (Down one semitone), -2 (Down one Tone).

so this means, if I am in 5A I can mix it with
5A (Tonic)
5B (Relative Major)
6A Perfect Fifth (Dominant)
4A Perfect Fourth(Sub-Dominant)
12A(half step jump)
7A (whole step jump)
10A (half step jump)
3A (whole step jump)



is 9A and 2A compatible, and why?, is this an energy mix?

I've heard that the worse mixes are supposed to be the keys that are next to each other, therefore that would be the +7, or +5, but actually if done very well, you can feel it sounds very nice.

so if they are supposed to be the worse mixes, if I Mix another songs properly, wherever is the keycode, it will alos sound fine?

Thanks.


No - the +/- thing refers to going up or down a keyboard in semitones, not to the numbers on the easymix system. If you want to use easymix, just mix with any keys that are adjacent on the wheel.e.g. if you are in D-flat minor, mix with E major, A-flat minor, or F-sharp minor. If you were to count up 7 semitones from D-flat on a keyboard, you would reach A-flat, which as you can see, is a compatible key on the easymix system.

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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by est
No - the +/- thing refers to going up or down a keyboard in semitones, not to the numbers on the easymix system. If you want to use easymix, just mix with any keys that are adjacent on the wheel


no, the

-3
-1
+1
+4
+7

refer to mixes using the easymix system


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est
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Registered: Dec 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
no, the

-3
-1
+1
+4
+7

refer to mixes using the easymix system


Not as I understand it. According to the camelot site guidelines:
quote:
HARMONIC KEY SELECTION

Each key is assigned a keycode number from one to twelve, like hours around a clock. To select a compatible key from any origin keycode, choose a keycode within one number of your original keycode. THAT'S IT! If you are in keycode 9, you can select an 8, 9 or 10. If you are in keycode 4, you can select a 3, 4 or 5. If you are in keycode 12, you can select an 11, 12 or 1. Your best mixes will be into another song at the same speed and key. SIMPLE ENOUGH?

SOURCE

As I said, keys that are adjacent on the wheel are compatible. But I don't really use the easymix system as I have done years of theory on harmony.

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