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blup
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Utrecht, Netherlands
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De scene van 50 smith's tegen neo vond ik op een gegeven moment iets overdreven worden maar 't was zeker een strakke film

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Ding Chavez
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Holland

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Originally posted by robin
owja .. die man, die bij neo ligt op het eind, zouden we die verder moeten kennen.. tis mij niet echt helemaal duidelijk wie hij is..


!!!SPOILER!!!

Dat is een met een virus geinfecteerd mannetje uit het begin van de film. Dat moet genoeg zeggen


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Remy D
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Location: Nederland oh Nederland jij bent een kampioen, wij houden van ORANJE om zijn daden en zijn doen.

Als je 3 x die fim heb gezien en nog niet snapt wie die man is dan vraag ik me echt af wat jij tijdens die film doet.

Oja en op de cd staat een nummer van Oakenfold en een remix van Oakenfold van de Dave Mathews Band. Misschien is dat nummer op de snelweg dan wel van Oakie. Of tijdens dat feest.


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Blik
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Rosmalen, Holland

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anders maak je een nieuwe thread waarin je kunt speculeren over het einde...


uche uche

maak voor spoilers alsjeblieft een nieuwe thread, er zijn vast mensen die de thread lezen en die de film nog niet gezien hebben


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Registered: Mar 2002
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Juno Reactor & Don Davis - Mona Lisa Overdrive (10:09 Min, 192 Kbps)

Das het nummer van de snelweg


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Juno Reactor & Don Davis - Mona Lisa Overdrive (10:09 Min, 192 Kbps)

Das het nummer van de snelweg

Dank u

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Cosmic
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Registered: Jan 2002
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**SPOILER**

Op internet gaan leuke discussies gaande over religiezue aspecten van Reloaded.

Dit stukje komt van deze pagina.

"Yes...the problem is about choice yes? Neo got a choice, if we look at the choice that he has, either go the way where he can choose a group of people to start Zion again or he can choose to save Trinity and hope for the best.

The architect has made it clear in some way that the conditions are there to make Neo choose the most logical choice to save Zion because of what 'the prophecy' says. However, the architect did say, he is different from the previous 'The Ones'. And truly enough he did choose to save trinity (the theology of the God head), and Neo has the hope that he can save the world. So the interesting part is that the Architect actually commented about Hope (couldn't catch it...but the idea was that hope is illogical).

I guess Neo's faith in hope has transformed him in a way that he is now even more powerful so much so that he is both powerful in the matrix and the real world that he can control and 'feel' the machines. This other human character cannot do.

The whole episode hinges on the idea of what choice and hope is. And thinking back, Neo did represent Christ in the sense that he did not follow his predecessors in choosing the obvious choice but rely on hope instead. He did not allow humans to go through the matrix again (the 7th), start another zion. He rather fight it out in the real world.

So in the same sense, Jesus has saved us from the vicious circle of sinful life. And because He has chosen to die for us instead of saving himself (the obvious choice). Now he is powerful in all creation and the battle is now transferred, as in Neo's case, to the real world (in the spiritual realm).

So all in all, we all who believe in Jesus will be saved spiritually and will be resurrected away from the world ruled by the devil (matrix). We will be transformed and be united with Him in the spiritual realm (as in Zion) as there would be a wedding banquet waiting for us and thus the tremedous joy (as in the dancing in the'temple'). There will be no fear!

Now we all will wait for the Day of Our Lord, the battle to end all battleslike the armegeddon in the scriptures and this will be represented in Matrix Revolutions. Of course we will be raptured first!

The movie does triggered some discussion with me and my nephew. He was questioning the validitity of choice in the view that God is all knowing. This is a very good question. However I believe that the choice is still valid or else God would not have to come out with a redemption plan if he know that we can choose to rebel against Him.

People are still choosing with regards to the things spiritual and God still allows them to do so. There is still a choice. And if there are no choice, then we are as good as robots, and absence of choice just says that God is a manipulative God but that is so NOT true.

Let us wait for the Day of Neo to pass........"

Het leuke van deze film, is dat er zo veel mogelijke verklaringen voor zijn. Een film waar iedereen een eigen, persoonlijke mening over heeft zijn mijns inszien altijd de beste.

En verder:

"Neo was programmed by the founder to be able to complete his destiny. To reboot the system. The oracle guides Morpheous and Trinity to find Neo and tell him of his destiny. The oracle is not a friend of the humans but rather a program built to maintain the power structure of the Matrix. That is why it appears that she is an ally but in reality she is a sort of double agent."


Wat denken jullie over het 'kernprobleem' van deze film?

Bestaat vrije wil of is alles voorbestemd? Als alles voorbestemd zou zijn, zouden er oneindig veel The One's moeten zijn, omdat ze allemaal zouden kiezen voor de redding van Zion (=Jeruzalem). De vorige "One's" hebben dat allemaal gekozen. Maar Neo (de zevende The One, ook niet geheel ontoevallig) kiest de andere deur. Nou moet nog blijken of dat goed af gaat lopen (denk wel dat Matrix 3 een happy end wordt, of, misschien een open eind?), want t kan natuurlijk ook geprogrammeerd zijn dat ie voor Trinity kiest....
En wat als Neo de blauwe pil had gekozen?

Je ziet t, genoeg stof om over na te denken .

Edit: dikke site met mooi wallpapers (ook Matrix):
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Duke2003
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thanks voor de track dat is echt de bom!!!

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MaGiK54
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: The Hague

Uuuuuuuuuber geeeeeeeeeeeeil is The Matrix Reloaded, tis echt The Matrix triple in het kwadraat


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Blik
The Almighty Blik



Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Rosmalen, Holland

gister ook the matrix reloaded gezien, en hij is echt VET!!


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robin
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Almere

quote:
Originally posted by Duke2003
thanks voor de track dat is echt de bom!!!


wat heb k die uitspraak lang niet gehoord



kan me die track niet echt herinneren.. ff downen..

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vond > 206-juno_reactor_vs_don_davis-burly_brawl-mvp.mp3 .. dat is volgens mij de zelfde.. dat zou gelijk verklaren waarom k m me niet herinner..

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robin
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wat is dat met dit forum.. mag je nou wel of niet file bij je post uploaden?

Old Post May-20-2003 19:47  Netherlands
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