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TranceGiant
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quote:
Originally posted by Mental Exodus
care to explain ?



Hm...not sure if it'd make sense to argue with someone who drops lots of anti-israeli /anti-semitic cliches. I got no power to carefully explain why Jews do NOT secretly run the world. I thought such conspiracy theories were outdated


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Mental Exodus
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quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
Hm...not sure if it'd make sense to argue with someone who drops lots of anti-Israeli /anti-Semitic clichés. I got no power to carefully explain why Jews do NOT secretly run the world. I thought such conspiracy theories were outdated


hmmmm... i think my message was mistaken.
I am not anti-emetic in any way what i was trying to say was simply that Israel isn’t innocent by far and shouldn’t be portrayed as such. As for Jews/Israel running the world i didn’t say that they did. They of course do not. However they do hold power and my examination of that power and its implementation in the world deserves a good look like any other gov. That isn’t anti Jewish in any way. ITS DEMOCRATIC. And by the way the activities I speak of are real and can be quoted in many papers and other media sources. They are not conspiracies in any way.
www.whatreallyhappend.com < is clearly a conspiracy. My post looking at the current actions of the Israel gov is not.
I still find it funny that anyone who questions anything is anti jewsish/american/human ect. lol


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occrider
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quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
oh yeah? we would still have some guy named Adolf Hitler ruling in europe or maybe even slavery in the US don't say things without thinking.


Don't say things without reading . Here's what I said:

quote:

perhaps they care not for how they are governed so long as they are free to practice their beliefs and live their lives as they so choose.


Now do you think we would all be free to live as we so choose under Hitler or as a slave?


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TranceGiant
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quote:
Originally posted by Mental Exodus
hmmmm... i think my message was mistaken.
I am not anti-emetic in any way what i was trying to say was simply that Israel isn’t innocent by far and shouldn’t be portrayed as such. As for Jews/Israel running the world i didn’t say that they did. They of course do not. However they do hold power and my examination of that power and its implementation in the world deserves a good look like any other gov. That isn’t anti Jewish in any way. ITS DEMOCRATIC. And by the way the activities I speak of are real and can be quoted in many papers and other media sources. They are not conspiracies in any way.
www.whatreallyhappend.com < is clearly a conspiracy. My post looking at the current actions of the Israel gov is not.
I still find it funny that anyone who questions anything is anti jewsish/american/human ect. lol


What the hell are u talking about. Your "points" are supposed to portray Israel as a country which steals, blackmails, brainwashes and threats everyone. Tell me this isn't driven by "anti.." sentiments.
What you're listing is a bunch of prejudices and myths, exaggerated facts and cliches. This is no basis for a constructive discussion whatsoever.


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Mental Exodus
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quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
What the hell are u talking about. Your "points" are supposed to portray Israel as a country which steals, blackmails, brainwashes and threats everyone.

LOL, I made the points so i think id know what they were supposed to portray. Let me asure u im not racist in any way. The points arent ment to be racist. Again they are ment to question the acts of the Israeli governent.
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Tell me this isn't driven by "anti.." sentiments.

ok it isn't driven by "anti.." sentiments
quote:

What you're listing is a bunch of prejudices and myths, exaggerated facts and cliches. This is no basis for a constructive discussion whatsoever.


Ok it looks like ill have to prove u wrong on this in order to prove that it is a basis for a "constructive discussion". Il be back with some proof.


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Cyrus King
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quote:
Originally posted by Mental Exodus
LOL, I made the points so i think id know what they were supposed to portray. Let me asure u im not racist in any way. The points arent ment to be racist. Again they are ment to question the acts of the Israeli governent.

ok it isn't driven by "anti.." sentiments


Ok it looks like ill have to prove u wrong on this in order to prove that it is a basis for a "constructive discussion". Il be back with some proof.


Im sick of that exploitative word "anti-semetic"

Whenever someone discusses the shit Israel has caused ..... boo hoo "youre antisemetic"

Im sure if a German was to argue against Israels death-capade "neo-nazi" would sure stir in someone like TranceGiant's ignorant head.


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occrider
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quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Im sick of that exploitative word "anti-semetic"

Whenever someone discusses the shit Israel has caused ..... boo hoo "youre antisemetic"

Im sure if a German was to argue against Israels death-capade "neo-nazi" would sure stir in someone like TranceGiant's ignorant head.


It's not anti-semetic to critisize Israel, however it is either anti-semetic (or overly conspiracy theorist) to believe in Jewish conspiracies that they have tentacles everywhere and are controlling everything.


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quote:
Originally posted by occrider
It's not anti-semetic to critisize Israel, however it is either anti-semetic (or overly conspiracy theorist) to believe in Jewish conspiracies that they have tentacles everywhere and are controlling everything.


Exactly. For example, people who claim that the Jews knew about the 9/11 attacks before they happened are anti-Semitic.

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TranceGiant
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Originally posted by occrider
It's not anti-semetic to critisize Israel, however it is either anti-semetic (or overly conspiracy theorist) to believe in Jewish conspiracies that they have tentacles everywhere and are controlling everything.


that was my point. I never said HE was antisemitc, I just wanted him to be more careful with his "arguments" which are clearly based on old cliches concerning the Jewish world rule. I dont blame him too much, cause if u dont know about the history of those prejudices, or the way they reemerge in todays "criticizm against israel", you might easily use them without being aware of their dangerous potential.
end of story.


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davinox
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i think the israelis need to just quit being pussies and strap up to some TNT and...

KABOOOM!

because that's how you get attention and your way in world affairs, am i right?


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seriously, the PLO needed to be whiped out a long time ago. they should be kissing Sharon's ass for saving them. israel is not a perfect nation, but it is not lead by a bunch of power-hungry thugs.

Palestinians don't even exist, its not like the israelis won't let them live with them. the forces that be in palestine don't want ANY Israeli to live.


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Cyrus King
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quote:
Originally posted by davinox
Palestinians don't even exist,


Yes...all 3,000,000 of them are a waste of space and shouldnt exist

grow the fuck up and stop spewing out bullshit. ITs this attitude that has made the situation that exists in the middle east.


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Luke Terry
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what i don't understand is a country technically at war in their own country (israel) has cable and i have 56k


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