Hi peeps, i need to revive this old thread.

I need some advice. First of all, i'd like to say i have no musical knowledge whatsoever and noone to ask to.

After passing all my tracks by the mixmeister, as said above all the keys are minor. But some of them have a #, such as D#m. Searching around i've found that it means "sharp". But using the Camelot method, there is no D minor sharp... so what does it mean? or does it correspond to another key?
Also using the harmonic mixing tables , there is no Sharp, and instead there is a Db minor, Eb minor... Does the b correspond to the #?

And another thing: it says on the camelot website that a 6% difference will shift the tone by 7 rows, so that means that a 3% difference will be like 3-4 rows? And according to the same website, i can "get away" with a 3bpm difference while harmonically mixing, which means that (using the .8% bpm rule) i can "get away" with a pitch difference of +2.4% and -2.4% while playing between 130 and 140 bpm, am i correct?

Hey there Borron,

They thing you are looking at is # (sharp). I can understand this being a little confusing but the answer is simple.

#(Sharp) is the same as b(flat) with a slight difference in name.

With that in mind a D# minor and Eb minor are exactly the same note it's just the name that's different. It's just two different ways of saying the same thing.
Here is a list of all the notes and there alternative names.
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C

Db/C#

D

Eb/D#

E

F

Gb/F#

G

Ab/G#

A

Bb/A#

B
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A minor is just a name that identifies a chord that has a more sombre feel to it but the root (first note) is the same in a major or minor chord.

A simple rule of thumb with pitch is that if it's above 3% in change then it will usually not go very well. You can get away with it sometimes though. A 6% increase in pitch difference is equal to a complete change in note meaning that a B has moved up to a C.

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As a side note:
You will see a lot of people who have put things in this thread with regards to knowing scales and making a fuss about pitch change but to be honest most of them have not understood the principles of the whole thing. Plain and simple they are making it overcomplicated or just don't know how to do it and don't want to understand.

If you have any questions just post them here and I will answer for you. There are a few other guys out there who also know about this so maybe they will also give some assistance.

Cheers
Nem

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Thanks a lot, i appreciate it.

Now let's try some harmonic mixing!

hey nem can i ask you how you sort your tunes? im thinking of organising them in bpm since i have them all bpm/keyed.

I sort them by Key usually. Never by BPM.
But then sorting records is very personal and ultimately it should be a way in which you find what you are looking for.
If you are a harmonic mixer it makes more sense to go by key.

Cheers
Nem

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Is there a program like MixMeister that can identify keys for mac OSX?
It sounds like a pretty helpful program, does anyone know how it works? Is it just identifying the first key or does it look at the whole track? ...or is it just a glorified guitar tuner?

Craig.

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Originally posted by o0 chewie 0o Is there a program like MixMeister that can identify keys for mac OSX? It sounds like a pretty helpful program, does anyone know how it works? Is it just identifying the first key or does it look at the whole track? ...or is it just a glorified guitar tuner? Craig.

If you have some kind of instrument that you can play, i.e. synth/keyboard, piano, guitar, bass, whatever, use that instead. Once you know how to, you'll be way better than any computer program.

Unfortunately I can't help you any more than that, though...