i've never taken mush before, it's to hard to get around this arena. I've trip on LSD around 4 times, all were great except one...
My friend was over and he has never done a drug before in his life, i had 9 hit of cid, i took 4 and he took 3, he's a lot taller than me also. We sat around and watched TV while it kicked it. Once it kicked in we were having so much fun, we stayed in my bedroom and just talked for like 2 hours. Then things got fucked up...bad. He said something, about school, then it took me back to highschool, i thought i had summer school the next day. I was failing and had a major project, due. I started freaking out running around the house chewing on my fingers because i was so worried, my friend was freaking out because i was so scared. He was about to call an ambulance, when i said i was fine. I tried to tell myself i was only tripping and i was going to be fine. But i couldn't except that, i was tripping so hard that i would just turn everything i thought around. My friend couldn't reasure me, because he had never done it before. I couldn't shut up, i was complaining about my project, failing and how i was going to be a failure in life. Then i started to cry. I pulled myself together and said i gotta do this project, so got some paper out but couldn't work because i said i needed sleep because i gotta get up for school tomorrow. So i would pace around my room wondering what i should do, panicing. "should i sleep, should i work, if i work i will be up for hours and sleep duriing school and fail, if i sleep i will fail the project."
I finally made the choice to sleep, which i was still unsure about. So laid down, and then i had a strange trip where a Jeep with 2 girls in it bust threw my wall and ran me over. I screamed and my friend ran it saying what's wrong. I just laid their in the fetal position saying to myself "i need sleep, i need sleep" over and over and over again...until i finally passed out.

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just like i said, drugs arent for everyone...

Liquidsound, you are a nut trying to take 9 hits in the same night.

Psychologists say if you even take 10 or more hits, you're going to be clinically insane after.

I wouldn't even dare go past two, I only did that once. I'm pretty tough, I can handle high dosages, but no way I'm about to test my limits like you did, unless I was hoping to meet the Devil himself. Scary.

i only took 4, and my friend took 3, leaving 2 left afterwards

I wasn't sure of my limits, but i do now

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Damn, the book you could publish with everyone's crazed drug stories. Its an idea I gotta get working on. Personal I've hundreds of fucked up stories. For instancee......

This is highschool when we all used to be shroom heads.
One night at some hotel party everyone munches. An hour later everyone is going nuts. Except for me. I just sat there and was pissed off cause I wasn't feeling anything. I didn't want to be sober in a room full of shroomed out idiots, so I decided to drive home. Ten minutes down the road I'm waiting at a red light at a major intersection. I'm just staring at the light, it turns green....and I'm still just staring at the light. Suddenly I couldn't understand what the fuck was going on. I couldn't understand why I was driving a car and I really really couldn't understand where the fuck I was. I didn't know where to go. I didn't know where my house was. So I sat there till the light turned red again. Finally I realized where I was and proceeded to drive. Things just went insane then, the shrooms really worked. I was driving down empty streets, but then suddenly I would see people everywhere. They were hiding behind posts and trees. They'd all pop out and then hide away. They were all dark and evil. It was so crazy I was so scared. Thank god it was 5am. It was such a long and shaky trip. I finally made it home and to bed. Of course I couldn't sleep cause I was hiding under my covers and getting scared b/c I thought my hands were growing to big for my body and I wouldn't be able to use them.

This is copied from the www.shroomery.org, you can find the original here What dreams may come

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Having been shrooming for a few years now I felt it was time I attempted to get to a level 5 experience. Although I may have not reached a true level 5, I got to experience glimpses of what it could be like through an intense level 4.

On our second day of camping me and about 5 friends decided to trip on mushrooms. Me and my closest friend there decided we wanted to trip hard, everyone else seemed to just want a slight enjoyable trip. After munching down probably around 5 grams each, our friends seemed very concerned that we were crazy. I explained to them that I was aware of what I was doing and that I could handle it.. That was my first mistaken thought of the night.

We took the mushrooms around 7pm, and in only about 5-10 minutes I knew this was going to be a strong trip, my body was already responding to the mushrooms and my visuals were noticable after only 15 minutes. The first thing I noticed was the swaying trees across the river were like an oil painting, in fact a lot of what I saw I could relate to that movie "What dreams may come."

I noticed my friend "Craig" was also getting hit hard quickly, he seemed very excited about it at first, but then after it became pretty intense he started to worry. He pulled me away from our seats and I walked with him, he kept telling me he didn't feel right.. I think that was an understatement, after watching him puke I realized that he might need a sitter to help him out, but I was way to high to be of any assistance.. In fact at first I was admiring the pretty colours of his vomit, while he called for me to help him..

Then my first bit of worry, I noticed a ringing in both my ears and I felt as if I was about to black out. I managed to lay down on the grass and keep concious (nearly reaching level 5). Then after looking at the sky I noticed just how incredibly high I was, the trees were in fractal shapes, the sky was moving like a swirl... In fact when I was laying down I was very confused as to if I was sitting, standing or laying down... Even when a few friends walked over I couldn't decide..

After handling this original kick in the ass by the shrooms I seemed to gather some control back, so I walked back to the campfire and placed myself in my lounger chair. I sat there for what seemed to be an eternity watching as my friends mutated into freakish mutants, plain faces like the ones on the Pink Floyd The Wall movie, and seeing just vivid and incredibly entertaining visuals from the trees, grass, river and the mountain. I managed even to talk a little bit, but more often than not I was unable to make any conversation...

Then it became dark, and it was like a ton of bricks hit me. No longer did I see all the distractions of my surroundings in light, now I had to deal with an incredibly high brain and its imagination going wild.. I felt like my mind was no longer attached to my body, while sitting in my chair I kept grabbing my legs to make sure they were still attached. I then lost complete control of my body, I couldn't tell if I needed to pee or not.. Then I was sure that I was pissing myself, so I got up and walked away. After touching myself for a wetspot I realized I had just imagined it. But my body was not under my control anymore, I realized that going to pee was important at this moment, but I couldn't figure out how to do it..

So I layed down and then started to see some incredibly intense visuals, the tree leaves all had eyes, they were swaying rythmicly and the clouds were all dancing for my enjoyment.. I saw kalaidescopes in the sky, and then just like someone turned a switch the stars came out. Then I got distracted again by the fear that I was pissing myself, so I got up and walked away to go pee, this walk was nothing short of incredibly hard.. I must have looked quite ridiculous as I walked towards the trees. I thought the ground beneath me would take me since I felt everything was an oil painting.

I managed to fumble and pull out mr happy, I then realized I couldn't tell my body to start peeing, so I just waited and it seems somehow my body figured it out.. The pee turned into flowers as it hit the ground, and for some reason after I stopped peeing my body felt like it was still going. It was a very uncomfortable feeling not knowing if you had to go, or even if you could avoid pissing yourself.

After I finished this, I decided to walk back, I felt absolutely like I was about to die, I remember thinking I was about to cease to exist, I walked over to a camper to make sure it was real. I then managed to stumble near the campfire again, but this time away from direct sight of my friends. I kept seeing them morph into some interesting things, so I felt safer laying where I was.. At this point I become concerned. I felt as if I was going to dissapear, that I would never return to what I was. In fact after a while I couldn't remember what was normal, I tried to remember who I was and I couldn't.. I never was freaking out, I somehow kept the fear down to a concern, when people looked over I always gave them the thumbs up even though I was far from OK

I started to punch the ground and I was sure that I was beginning to morph with the ground.. Any time someone came over I asked, am I OK, and they always said you are totally fine, I never believed them .. I figured it was smart for me to get to a safe place, so I managed to get myself o my tent, there I layed down on my airmattress and covered myself up with a blanket.

My time in the tent was my most intense, I was grappling with reality like I never new was possible, I wasn't sure if I was real, I definately wasn't sure if the tent was even real. I kept touching my body to make sure it was still attached, I kept trying to figure out who I was and if I would ever be normal...And of course I was trying to figure out the images I saw in the dark. I can see now what people mean by the differences of daytime trips and nightime trips.. The visuals in the daytime keep your mind from delving into its imagination, but when darkness takes over you and your mind are all thats left and boy can it become intense.

Finally after about 6hrs of tripping incredibly hard my friend joined me in my tent, he started the long ardous task of brining me back down to reality.. It probably took about 1hr of talking to me to get me somewhat grounded, I was incredibly confused and everytime I looked at my friend he was morphing into a gorilla from planet of the apes.. I found that rather funny, but the wise gorilla was definately helping.

Well thats pretty well it, there was lots more that I could hardly try to explain, I felt a global conciousness, I saw incredible things when I closed my eyes, I for some reason felt there was all these beings waving at me when I had my eyes closed. There is so much to explore in your mind, I feel like I've just peeked inside my mind, I plan to jump in that door in the future to see what dreams may come.

Thor

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Originally posted by -LiquidSounds- i only took 4, and my friend took 3, leaving 2 left afterwards I wasn't sure of my limits, but i do now

Yeah, better to play it safe next time then be a vegetable after.

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Originally posted by TrAnCe CoNtRoL matej_the_god i was talking about psychadelics . yes weed would be the safest. except for the whole thc in your lung thing. kills less brain cells than shrooms though. weed is the safest, but shrooms ate the safest hard drug.

Weed is not safer than mushrooms, just goto www.drugfreeamerica.com and see for yourself. Weed has a pretty long list of side effects, but mushrooms have almost none.

Calling mushrooms a hard drug is pretty harsh. Its natural, safe, controllable (you decide how hard you want to trip)... Most people refer to hard drugs as cocaine, heroin, crack, LSD, etc....

I know media portrays pshycadelics in a negetive way, but most of what you hear is BS, its safe and can be very enlightning.. The only real risk is having a bad trip where you think you're dying or seeing nightmarish things, but of course thats all in your mind and not really happening. The wise thing is to have a trip sitter, or just not take that many mushrooms.

Of course there is another risk, eating the wrong kind of mushroom, or having the ones you buy laced with something.. But again that has nothing to do with the safety of the magic mushrooms.

For those who were talking about the Poison aspect of the mushroom, read this FDA report on Psilocybin, the active chemical found in mushrooms that makes you trip.

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Psilocybin Poisoning:
A number of mushrooms belonging to the genera Psilocybe, Panaeolus, Copelandia, Gymnopilus, Conocybe, and Pluteus, when ingested, produce a syndrome similar to alcohol intoxication (sometimes accompanied by hallucinations). Several of these mushrooms (e.g., Psilocybe cubensis, P. mexicana, Conocybe cyanopus) are eaten for their psychotropic effects in religious ceremonies of certain native American tribes, a practice which dates to the pre- Columbian era. The toxic effects are caused by psilocin and psilocybin. Onset of symptoms is usually rapid and the effects generally subside within 2 hours. Poisonings by these mushrooms are rarely fatal in adults and may be distinguished from ibotenic acid poisoning by the absence of drowsiness or coma. The most severe cases of psilocybin poisoning occur in small children, where large doses may cause the hallucinations accompanied by fever, convulsions, coma, and death. These mushrooms are generally small, brown, nondescript, and not particularly fleshy; they are seldom mistaken for food fungi by innocent hunters of wild mushrooms. Poisonings caused by intentional ingestion of these mushrooms by people with no legitimate religious justification must be handled with care, since the only cases likely to be seen by the physician are overdoses or intoxications caused by a combination of the mushroom and some added psychotropic substance (such as PCP).
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Just remember with the so called poisoning effect, this is not a dangerous thing. There are millions of 'poisons' in the world that affect you to various degrees, Psilocybin just happens to be a really safe toxin. I've read that you would have to eat ridiculous amounts of magic mushrooms to overdose, so much so that there has been maybe 2-3 reports in medical history of an overdose.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess i think that i would disagree with this. my two friends did mushrooms once and they puked up blood. some of the worst poisons on earth are mushrooms.

Wow, sorry but I have to reply to this post. Magic Mushrooms are some of the safest toxins in the world. If your friend was puking blood its because they ate something else. Its common for people to get sick from eating poisonous mushrooms that aren't psychadelic, but the magic mushrooms will not make you spit blood, this I'm 100% sure of. Your friend had a reaction to something other than Psilocybin thats for sure.

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Excuse my ignorance, what is Level 5? I didn't even know you guys class experiences as levels.

My most intense experience is reaching Zen/Nirvana awakening (which equates to Enlightenment). My words will never be enough to truly descibe the essence of reaching such a state. These shamanic experiences are meant to be experienced wordlessly in order to realize it.

Thor, you should be careful about mush. It can make you a schizoid if you take too much. There other ways to cultivate mind and spirit without going to the edge of the chasm

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Originally posted by u4ea:[soulstar] Yeah, drinking tea with mush will make the experience like 2-3 times more intense than just ingesting it. One reason is liquid gets absorbed much faster. The second reason is you're drinking the concentrated juice from the drained mush. If you saw patterns you should have saw the air wriggling with beautiful colors. Everything and everywhere I would look, an explosion of colors met my eyes.

Be carefull with mushroom tea, if its too hot the Psilocybin will be destroyed. There is no evidence to support that drinking Tea will make your trip more intense, you absorb just as much Psilocybin from chewing mushrooms. The heat of the Tea does give you that feeling in your stomach like your trip is coming on, but its not going to get you high any quicker nor make the trip stronger.

Everyone has their preference for how to ingest it, but there are things out there that are said to help with the stomach problems such as drinking orange juice before tripping..

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Originally posted by u4ea:[soulstar] =Thor= Excuse my ignorance, what is Level 5? I didn't even know you guys class experiences as levels. My most intense experience is reaching Zen/Nirvana awakening (which equates to Enlightenment). My words will never be enough to truly descibe the essence of reaching such a state. These shamanic experiences are meant to be experienced wordlessly in order to realize it. Thor, you should be careful about mush. It can make you a schizoid if you take too much. There other ways to cultivate mind and spirit without going to the edge of the chasm

A schizoid?? Where did you get your facts, this just is not true. These urban legends come from LSD, thats with extreme doses and/or long term abuse of LSD. Mushrooms are not going to make you schizoid, thats just not true. Its true mushrooms should be used sparingly, I'd probably say I do them 4-5 times a year, and a strong trip is something I do even less because of how much there is to decipher from the experience.

The shamanic experience would likely be a level 5 experience, I've read much on the subject and the most common description of these trips is there is so much I could not put in words

Heres the intensity levels for Mushrooms:

Level 1:
This level produces a mild "stoning" effect, with some visual enhancement (i.e. brighter colours, etcetera). Some short term memory anomalies. Left/right brain communication changes causing music to sound "wider".


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Level 2:
Bright colors, and visuals (i.e. things start to move and breath), some 2 dimensional patterns become apparent upon shutting eyes. Confused or reminiscent thoughts. Change of short term memory leads to continual distractive thought patterns. Vast increase in creativity becomes apparent as the natural brain filter is bypassed.


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Level 3:
Very obvious visuals, everything looking curved and/or warped patterns and kaleidoscopes seen on walls, faces etc. Some mild hallucinations such as rivers flowing in wood grained or "mother of pearl" surfaces. Closed eye hallucinations become 3 dimensional. There is some confusion of the senses (i.e. seeing sounds as colors, etcetera). Time distortions and "moments of eternity".


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Level 4:
Strong hallucinations, i.e. objects morphing into other objects. Destruction or multiple splitting of the ego. (Things start talking to you, or you find that you are feeling contradictory things simultaneously). Some loss of reality. Time becomes meaningless. Out of body experiences and e.s.p. type phenomena. Blending of the senses.


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Level 5:
Total loss of visual connection with reality. The senses cease to function in the normal way. Total loss of ego. Merging with space, other objects, or the universe. The loss of reality becomes so severe that it defies explanation. The earlier levels are relatively easy to explain in terms of measureable changes in perception and thought patterns. This level is different in that the actual universe within which things are normally perceived, ceases to exist! Satori enlightenment (and other such labels).

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