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so everything about drug awareness is completely a lie. Ok, so that means:

Government says:
Impairs Judgement
Addiction/Dependence/Depression
Kills Brain Cells

So, considering this is all make believe and full of lies, that idicates that weed:
Improves Judgement
No Psychological/Emotional affects such as dependence and Depression, not addictive
Creates Brain Cells

where did i go wrong?

WWJD?

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Originally posted by djSlain counterpoint? ::Searching searching searching::. none detected. Response Ignored for Lack of Contribution to this discussion. by the way, smoking weed will eventually make u an idiot, just look at Drew Barymore and Snoop Dogg.

The counter point is that speeding through a red light is dangerous. Toking isnt.

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advantages of smoking weed? Even San Diego has it's ugly places. Sometimes i have to go into these neighborhoods to look at some car dealerships or maybe i'm hungry. So here i go, honk honk, beep beep through the neighborhood. You know ur in some shitty places when there is an alley per every block. hmm, i have to go into an alley to reach the highway to go back home. hmmm, blantant drug dealing between teenagers (I didn't see any adults doing it, is that a sign of positivity?), and when i stop to make a right, there is a stop sign with a bunch of blunts burned into it. The smell, mmm, thats not Captain Crunch cereal. It couldn't possibly be weed! That's right. All the poor people couldn't smoke weed. it must be all the rich people that smoke weed, u know, because of all the advantages of smoking weed, they make $150,000 a year. right? This next question is just out of curiosity: what are the advantages of smoking weed? There must be some advantages considering canada has legalized it. O right. It will raise the IQ of students so that when they grow up to be leaders, the US will bow down to Canada and we will fall off the face of the earth in our defecits and then canada will be the best country in the world. I'm not a girl, but i think it's acceptable for me to say "puhleeze" so it's ok to tell the newer generations that it's ok not to shoot for success. People these days don't really make their own success. They follow the steps of successful people to reach the top. Why aim for anything other than success? Do we want to follow the steps of those who smoke weed?

Wow. U really r brainwashed. Who the fuck said anything about telling kids not to be ambitious?

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If cops are so busy "wasting time" finding people who do drugs, who's fault is it when they get caught? And what happens when u get caught with drugs. u are then labeled (spelling?) imcompitent for the rest of ur life when the employer asks to give u a backround check. No more good jobs. Of course, this is about professional succes.

Thats because of governments and the media. If drugs were legal and thesefore socially acceptable (they r only partly now), like alcohol, this wouldnt happen.

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how about personal success? Doesn't weed destroy families, whether it's the parents or the children? (is there another type of success?)

No weed doesnt destroy families. I dunno where the fuck ur hearing this shit from, and i cant believe anyones stupid enough to believe it. On the other hand, the legal drug alcohol has destroyed millions of families. Im sure uv heard about the old cliched alcoholic dad who beats up his wife and kids who he either ends up killing or they leave etc..

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are u going to start a campaign to tell children its ok to smoke weed as long they are "innocent" lil kids.

They should be told its ok to smoke as long as the user is responsible enough.

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america is stupid when it comes to drugs. so let's go to the old UK. http://www.drugs-awareness.co.uk/drugs_cannabis.htm

The first thing this site says is this:

THE LEAH BETTS HELPLINE / ACTION FOR DRUGS AWARENESS is a voluntary organisation founded by Paul and Janet Betts following the death of their daughter Leah at her 18th birthday party after taking an Ecstasy tablet.
The rumours that followed her death made Paul and Jan realise that many young people had been given wrong information in relation to many recreational drugs and set about trying to pass on factual information so that 'an informed choice' could be made.

That is fucking laughable. It couldnt be more obvious that this is a biased prohibitionist site. Did u know that leah betts died from drinking too much water? Yes, she overdosed on water. Why? Because the government refuses to educate people on how to use drugs safely. It only wouldve took them to say "limit drinking water to a pint an hour". She would probably be alive today. Of course, this bs story was all over the news and papers when it happened, and then days later hidden in some dark corner of a paper it told in about 20 words how it was water that killed her.

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i'll comment on this after u answer me this question. it's not a flame or anything, but i just need some info before i respond to this. Did u do the drugs before/duing/after getting your teaching degree? because if u did the drugs before u got the degree, then it obviously meant that u decided "u know what, i need to stop doing drugs because it's only making me go backwards, not forwards, in my ambition to become a productive member of society. Why did u do the drugs in the first place? because u wanted to aim low and work at K mart? "i've got to get my head in the game" ok, booom u stopped drugs and started to journey to getting that degree. now, if u did it during the journey, then i have been DEFEATED. I guess i could say that maybe u were to the exception to the rule, but i won't. If u were really able to do this, then i guess i'll secede. And if u did it after, and still doing it, then u better watch out for drug tests, especially in the career i guess u are heading for, teaching. Why don't the school boards want to hire people who have previous experience with drugs? btw, say if u actually did get arrested, do u think u would still have that career secured? ummm, what else.

Millions of people have done degrees and the like and done drugs at the same time. Theres no reason, as long as ur responsible, why it should affect that. U defeated urself, AND made urself look like a completely clueless fucking wanker/troll at the same time.

This is thoroughly entertaining.

Thank you, djslain.

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Originally posted by djSlain so everything about drug awareness is completely a lie. Ok, so that means: Government says: Impairs Judgement Addiction/Dependence/Depression Kills Brain Cells So, considering this is all make believe and full of lies, that idicates that weed: Improves Judgement No Psychological/Emotional affects such as dependence and Depression, not addictive Creates Brain Cells

Where the fuck does this logic come from? U OBVIOUSLY r deliberately talking shit. Who is stupid enough to think that just because something doesnt do something, it must do the complete opposite?
So ur saying, if cannabis doesnt kill brain cells, that has to mean it creates new 1s? I suggest u shut up now, because ur really making urself look like a stupid fucking prick.
To set u straight, cannabis doesnt significantly impair judgement. Its not addictive. For something to be addictive it has to cause withdrawl symptoms, tolerance and be reinforcing. But cannabis does not cause the 'hard tolerance' needed. It only builds short term tolerance that is more or less gone after a week or 2 at most.
Obviously u didnt know that, so ill assume u just meant cannabis causes withdrawls. At absolute worst, this will be weird/vivid/sometimes bad dreams for about 2 nights, or the sweats. Almost all users (over 90% iirc) will have no symptoms at all.
The so called depressing ur talking about isnt even a withdrawl symptom. This is just a feeling of 'missing' weed if uv been using it a lot before that. Like if ur sitting bored 1 day and u thought to urself "i wish i had some weed" etc
AND NO IT DOES NOT KILL BRAIN CELLS.

Lets compare this to alcohol:
Alcohol kills many, many brain cells.
Alcohol impairs judgement more than almost every other drug.
Alcohol can cause u to not even know what ur doing.
Alcohol can make ur agressive.
Alcohol can make u do things u would never do sober.
Alcohol addiction is common, and one of the withdrawl symptoms is death, especially if u just stop using it suddenly.
Alcohol can make u act like a wanker.
Alcohol is the most commonly used date rape drug.
Alcohol overdoses can happen with as little as twice the amount normally taken. Cannabis overdoses can potentially happen if u take 40 000 times the amount normally taken, which is impossible.
Do i need to go on? Where r the government tv ads telling u about this?

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where did i go wrong?

Ur just too fucking gullible.

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Originally posted by DJ-Fuq

Haha. You win. There's no way anyone can even try and argue with that.

High5s all around.

fortune 500 anyone?

i'll get back to this tomorrow morning. i have classes, u know, something that puts people ahead in life, not wasting my life by "woahhhhh mannnnn i'm tripppinnnnnnnnn"

edit: eh fuck it. i'll write something right now and post when i'm done... bored...

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Originally posted by UWM John Morgridge, former CEO of Cisco Systems, was a member of my fraternity at my university. And our house has a notorious reputation for being hard partiers. Now I suppose you can sit here and tell me I don't know what he did here, but I wouldn't put it past him.

Do you want me to email him and ask him?

Since all of your other points got completely destroyed, is this your last shred of hope?

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Originally posted by UWM Haha. You win. There's no way anyone can even try and argue with that. High5s all around.

Ud be surprised what prohibitionists would try to argue with. Most r just unreasonable stupid knobs who show u studies like the infamous rhesus monkey thing. I suppose that explains why theyre prohibitionists in the first place.

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Originally posted by UWM Do you want me to email him and ask him? Since all of your other points got completely destroyed

Not that hell admit it.

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The counter point is that speeding through a red light is dangerous. Toking isnt.

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They should be told its ok to smoke as long as the user is responsible enough.

"responsible enough." It's ok to do something potentially harmful, just as long as ur are responsible enough. It's ok to run a red light as long as u look in both directions, turn down the radio, open the windows, use binoculars so see down the cross street left and right, honk ur horn. i mean, that's VERY responsible!
"officer, i shouldn't be arrested for this activity because i was being responsible when i did this potentially harmful act."

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Wow. U really r brainwashed. Who the fuck said anything about telling kids not to be ambitious?

By telling kids it's ok to smoke weed, it's only giving them another distraction (like looking cool and sporting logos) that deters them from important issues such as their AMBITIONS, their plans for the future, the schools they want to go to, expanding their mind and enriching their lives. Is weed going to make these kids productive members in society, or has the "gateway" been erased? Saying 1 drug is safe only causes curiosity for others.
mmmm cigarrettes
mmmm pipes
mmmm cigars.

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Thats because of governments and the media. If drugs were legal and thesefore socially acceptable (they r only partly now), like alcohol, this wouldnt happen.

Should cutting be socially acceptable if it is done in a safe and controlled manner? it's about responsiblity and maturity rite? It gives u a rush, a lil scar, and u are fixed for the day, only anticipating each day for that certain 15 minutes to cut. Socially acceptable harmful activities, correct?

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No weed doesnt destroy families. I dunno where the fuck ur hearing this shit from, and i cant believe anyones stupid enough to believe it. On the other hand, the legal drug alcohol has destroyed millions of families. Im sure uv heard about the old cliched alcoholic dad who beats up his wife and kids who he either ends up killing or they leave etc..

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i do agree that alchohol is another factor that can lead to the destuction of the foundation of a family. But i think weed has the same affect and maybe we can agree on that?

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They should be told its ok to smoke as long as the user is responsible enough.

is there a responsible-o-meter from japan that will decide who is responsible enough to smoke? For this, then EVERY curious person would have to smoke at least once and decide for themselves if they are responsible enough. and there is the POSSIBLITY that 1 drug leads to 2, to 3, and so on. And who is going stop someone who DENIES having the ir-responsiblity?

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That is fucking laughable. It couldnt be more obvious that this is a biased prohibitionist site. Did u know that leah betts died from drinking too much water? Yes, she overdosed on water. Why? Because the government refuses to educate people on how to use drugs safely. It only wouldve took them to say "limit drinking water to a pint an hour". She would probably be alive today. Of course, this bs story was all over the news and papers when it happened, and then days later hidden in some dark corner of a paper it told in about 20 words how it was water that killed her.

i'm no expert on X, but:
I think the drug affects ur liver and it's ability to process neccessary supplements for ur body,and filter out the waste sent to the bladder. Drinking too much water WHILE being on the drug leads to water poisoning and possible death. Anyone can drink the amount of water she does. However, the drug's strenuous (spelling?) affect on the body's ability to process nutrients caused her water poisoning and bam, dead.

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Millions of people have done degrees and the like and done drugs at the same time. Theres no reason, as long as ur responsible, why it should affect that. U defeated urself, AND made urself look like a completely clueless fucking wanker/troll at the same time.

we'll have to wait for the person who was going to get the official Fortune 500 list. We'll compare the world's most successful men and women and see if they attribute their success, or power, to the gift we call weed.

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