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so you pretty much think that all of uplifting/epic/anthem is shit. well that's an opinion. but what got people here more pissed off is the division between 'epic' and 'not trance'. it'd make a little bit more sense if they were all in the same category, and it'd make a lot more sense if those tracks swapped categories.
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In actual fact, I see no discrepancy either. Anthem is anthem is anthem to me. I dislike how you people categorize an anthem based on how it makes you feel ie: if its floaty and light-hearted you'll call it Emotional Trance or Angelic Trance...and then if it's hard and pulsing you'd call it Power Trance or whatever....the number of names you people come up with to describe the mood a track puts you in is silly, to say the least.
But there's a reason I put those 3 genres there. Anthem Trance is anything that fits the breakdown-build-anthem formula. The one producer who's probably exploited the Anthem cookie cutter template the most is Transa. Every song is exactly the same, except for the chorus fanfare everyone is waiting for. The way I have categorized it, it's the (relatively) harder and more driving side of the mold.
Epic Trance is the same as Anthem Trance, and to nitpick the difference between the two is not really necessary, but there's a conscientious reason why I did it. Epic Trance means to me Anthem Trance that has gotten way worse (I guess your "uplifting", so to speak). At least Anthem Trance was somewhat tolerable, if predictable. Epic is just gagging. It is the floaty and angelic side of the mold. From a technical side of things, Epic employs 16th notes in its cutesy melodies, and vocals. Not just any vocals, but really BAD vocals. Hence why I included Alice Deejay and Ian van Dahl there. That represents the worst of the worst of Epic Trance. I should put DJ Sammy there too, but I found a much more deserving fate for him: Epic House.
"NOT Trance", as I cheekily call it, is more Anthem than Epic, and it represents the worst of the worst. Essentially its any track trying to recreate Out of the Blue without pretending to know that it's ripping it off. I hate it when there's a new musical sound that's discovered, and everybody dotes on it like that. They're just capitalizing on the trend for a quick buck, and you fools are falling for it.
Also, I really hate breakdowns. Why are they even there? A lot of tracks I really like up until the breakdown. Gouryella is a perfect example. What a kickass, awesome track up until 2:45 in the song. Everything after that is ruined by an unnecessarily long breakdown, and a bloated, shmaltzy anthem. Damn it, Ferry!!! Why did you have to go and ruin a good trance track like that?
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Everyone here recognises Alice Deejay and Ian van Dahl as cheesy crap while System F and Rank 1 would be epic trance. You may think of them all as the same bunch of crap but dividing them this way may give the idea that Alice Deejay is better than System F. Got it?
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Well, see, this is where we differ. To me, they're ALL cheesy crap. In fact, I would say that System F/Rank 1 are cheesies. I can stomach Alice Deejay before Rank 1. At least Better Off Alone doesn't have me impatiently tapping my foot and checking my watch all the time (get on with it already!!! It's been two bloody minutes! Where the fuck is the beat and the lead synth!??!?).
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perhaps we're getting a little bit too anal about subgenre details, but that way any stupid newbie that reads the guide can become pretty confused
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Well well well. You're afraid that newbies might become corrupted by the strong opinions of my guide? Well how do you think I feel? Your chees-o-matic trance factory scene has been devouring newbies for 5 years, and now there's no good trance anymore. Thanks a lot.
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not trying to change anyone's tastes..
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Not that anyone left has any taste worth changing.
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