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patticus
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: vancouver, bc

i never thought children was commercial, i still dont
just cuz everyone plays it, doesnt mean diddly


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AndiH
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Regensburg, Germany | GTA #15

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heh...no RobertMiles didnt make a remix of X-files.....he made the original.....


now that's wrong...mark snow made the theme from x-files

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mindshooter
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Registered: Nov 2000
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now that's wrong...mark snow made the theme from x-files


ok...in that case....huge misstake by me...sorry....i still believe he made a album before dreamland....


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blankmind
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Jacksonville, FL USA
Smoking ..umm..something

Ok, I'm going to throw my own two cents in about the beginings of trance and what the word means.

First off, Goa was the original style of trance. I think it had its beginings in the early 80's though I'm not sure. Goa was named after this place in india where hippies used to congregate in large numders. Well, anyway these hippies discovered that this certain type of music had an incredible effect on the stoned mind; i.e. it would often send them into a particular 'tranclike' state of altered consciousness.

The reason for this is the BASELINE. While other forms of music have a rolling baselines where tempo and key centres often shift, trance has its steady 4/4 beat with a constant key centre. Im sure you all have noticed it. Thump...thump...thump...thump. If it doesn't have this, it's not trance. Trancelike songs with rolling or uneven baselines we call "progressive house" or just "progressive" or whatever.

Anyway,Goa was originally organic music, meaning that it was made with traditional instruments instead of electronic ones like synths. But, sometime around the nineties, producers started combining techno and progressive type sounds to the trance 4/4 baseline, and voila! the beginings of trance as we know it today.

And so there you have it, a brief and history of trance. I hope this wasn't too cofusing.

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blankmind
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Jacksonville, FL USA
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Hmmmmmm....I'm stupid. Its Bassline NOT baseline. Anyway, you get my point.

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Johnny Eckhardt
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Los Angeles

Trance seems to have been a steady evolution that took it’s shape from early club/dance music. Artists like Patrick Cowley were putting out stuff that was very trancey and that was around 1981. In fact, I heard PVD use a direct sample from Patrick Cowley’s “Menergy” in one of his sets (sorry, I don’t remember exactly which one) where he looped part of the song for about 7 or 8 minutes while bringing other stuff in and out of it.
Bobby Orlando was another producer from the 80s that you can hear a lot of trance beginning to take shape in his music. There are several other’s as well. I don’t think that there is really any defining moment as to the beginning of trance (although, a few claim to be the beginning of trance). I think as electronics and synths worked their way into the dance music scene (I hate the word “disco” so I won’t refer to it as such), trance is but one of many forms that evolved it’s way out of that. A gradual progression that will more than likely keep on progressing into ……who knows? If anyone knew that, they could be a very rich person. Then again, most artists that put out stuff ahead of it’s time were looked at as being weird or too different only to have that style become popular years later. Go figure, huh?

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trintiy
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: MD.......Missing England :(

In respose to blankmind's post, the beginning of trance did not rely on the 4/4 bassline rotation as you described. House music used the 4/4 long before trance was around.

Almost all modern dance music has four beats in the bar, such as the thump...thump...thump...thump, house kick drum pattern your refering to. If you count this rhythm over alsmost any dance track, you will be able to identify the same basic 1,2,3,4 pulse. These fours, or 'bars' themselves fall into regular patterns or 'phrases'. And you can have 4,8, or 16 bar phrases. If you look at trance or house music new elements will be introduced or droped out every 8 or 16 bars. Granted there are some exceptions to this rule, like UK Garage for instance they use 2 beats per bar, which is how that musical genre was dubbed the title 2-step, most breakbeat follows that rule as well.

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dj_cuba
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Registered: May 2001
Location: England, Leicester: The great cesspit of the Midlands
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IAM THE ULTIMATE TA! i tell u exactly how trance was born...

Trance is actually a subgenre of techno, techno started of in the 70's and 80's with artists such as depeche mode and kraftwerk, techno then evolved into many subgenres, trance was one subgenre of techno along with others that came about in the early 90's with artists like jam and spoon and dance 2 trance, trance was first played on the dancefloors of holland and germany then fused out across the globe, most ppl didnt even know trance existed in the early 90's though, it was only until the late 90's that trance really took off. And the name trance? well that was just given to the subgenre because listening to it makes you feel like you're in a trance! There you go proof that i indeed am the ultimate TA! muhahahahahaha!!


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havok118
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Baltimore, MD

Instead of typing this out, I just decided to go find the damn website and paste it...

Breaking out of the German techno and hardcore scene of the early '90s, Trance emphasized brief synthesizer lines repeated endlessly throughout tracks, with only the addition of minimal rhythmic changes and occasional synthesizer atmospherics to distinguish them — in effect putting listeners into a trance that approached those of religious origin. Despite waning interest in the sound during the mid-'90s, trance made a big comeback later in the decade, even supplanting house as the most popular dance music of choice around the globe.
Inspired by acid house and Detroit techno, trance coalesced with the opening of R&S Records in Ghent, Belgium and Harthouse/Eye Q Records in Frankfurt, Germany. R&S defined the sound early on with singles like "Energy Flash" by Joey Beltram, "The Ravesignal" by CJ Bolland, and others by Robert Leiner, Sun Electric, and Aphex Twin. Harthouse, begun in 1992 by Sven Väth with Heinz Roth & Matthias Hoffman, made the most impact on the sound of trance with Hardfloor's minimal epic "Hardtrance Acperience" and Väth's own "L'Esperanza," plus releases by Arpeggiators, Spicelab, and Barbarella. Artists like Väth, Bolland, Leiner, and many others made the transition to the full-length realm, though without much of an impact on the wider music world.

Despite a long nascent period when it appeared trance had disappeared, replaced by breakbeat dance (trip-hop and jungle), the style's increasing impact on Britain's dance scene finally crested in the late '90s. The classic German sound had changed somewhat though, and the term "progressive" trance gained favor to describe influences from the smoother end of house and Euro dance. By 1998, most of the country's best-known DJs — Paul Oakenfold, Pete Tong, Tony De Vit, Danny Rampling, Sasha, Judge Jules — were playing trance in Britain's superclubs. Even America turned on to the sound (eventually), led by its own cast of excellent DJs, including Christopher Lawrence and Kimball Collins.


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trintiy
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: MD.......Missing England :(

Havok what website did you find that on?

And on a side note where do you spin at in B-more, I use to live and Dj in the Baltimore and DC area.

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havok118
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Baltimore, MD

www.allmusic.com is the site...


I have spun at a few really great underground parties, and as of late in a few small clubs around here. New party I got to open at in baltimore, where fever used to be held. Baltimore doesn't much care for trance though, so I stick mostly with the tribal stuff.

Scene around here as of late =


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trintiy
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: MD.......Missing England :(

Yeah, that's one of the reasons I left, cause the just don't support the trance scene there. I had a Sunday morning residency at PLUSH (yuk), and I played at 1722, Club Farenheit for the Merceury parties, and I played at TRACKS before it shut down, and the lizard lounge in DC, plus a few private raves around the area.

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