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whiskers
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: in your dreams

quote:
Originally posted by MERTON
but it's hard not to joke about it.. we have no attachment to this person... what if they are just being and attention whore?



yes, this is the internet. no, you don't have an attachment.

but there's more - you might be a part of a choice whether someone lives or dies, even if you don't know that person.

i agree that in this case we couldn't really do anything because the deed has been done, but that does not give anyone an excuse to joke about it.

some peoplea are so afraid to take it serious and then look foolish afterwards when it all turns out to be a joke... whatever suits you, i prefer to believe the statement but with a grain of salt. if it's a joke, ok, whatever, it's stupid and the person should be suspended or something... even better, banned forever. and i do hope this WAS a joke, or if not, at least anotherway is still alive.


and AFAIK, 25 sleeping pills might put you in a coma.


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MERTON
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Registered: Oct 2003
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bah.. you people here put too much ego on yourselves. this person was ready to die anyway.


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arctic
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Australia

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers

i agree that in this case we couldn't really do anything because the deed has been done, but that does not give anyone an excuse to joke about it.


It's possible that he hadn't in fact done it yet, but was considering it. Who knows, he might have been reaching out, hoping to find someone to talk to, yet all he got were people making snide remarks and jokes for the first couple of replies.

Either way, I think that there are enough reasons NOT to joke about it.


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Dmatrox
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Calgary

maybe he fell asleep for a long time


quote:
I want to reiterate my displeasure with Aplz/Netwerkd


As displeasured some of you might be, im happy about his situation. He recovered from depression and a life of drugs and no future. Even though some of you are unhappy about applz not "doing it", im happy that he didn't do it and im glad he recovered.

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arctic
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Registered: Oct 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
As displeasured some of you might be, im happy about his situation. He recovered from depression and a life of drugs and no future. Even though some of you are unhappy about applz not "doing it", im happy that he didn't do it and im glad he recovered.


From what I understand, he never intended to do 'it' in the first place, the entire thing was a joke


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Vivid Boy
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: T.O

well u know what i blame aplz still....i do feel bad i joked around abt it...but fuck aplz totally desensitized us from it..he played us as a bunch of fools...so now that hes done it we dont take as serious anymore cause we dont wanna look like idiots again...

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squirrelly
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: In the Shower

quote:
Originally posted by MERTON
bah.. you people here put too much ego on yourselves. this person was ready to die anyway.


What the fuck MERTON? What the hell kind of comment is that? Is that what you want someone to say about you?! I admit, when I first saw the thread, I wasn't sure if anotherway was kidding, but I even asked "is he serious" and "what was that he took" or something to that effect. I did make a comment about why would he say goodbye to his mom on the internet, because that didn't make sense to me, and it kind of still doesn't.

But that's besides the point. The point is, if someone needs help, we should offer it. Maybe this guy had serious problems and he just needed someone to listen, and we just blew him off. A lesson should be learned from this, regardless of aplz's case.


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sym
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IMO anyone who would make fun of someone for this is an asshole.

Joke or not you don't know, you don't have the right to assume someone is joking and make fun of him/her when they might very well be for real and your insensitivity pushes whatever hesitancy hey had out of their minds.

For some people perhaps they feel they can only talk about their problems in an anonymous fashion on TA, for many people it could be a form of help. It is a way to talk to people about problems you might be hesitant to admit to people who might judge them IRL.

I just don't find any humor in the situation.

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Vivid Boy
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quote:
Originally posted by sym
IMO anyone who would make fun of someone for this is an asshole.

Joke or not you don't know, you don't have the right to assume someone is joking and make fun of him/her when they might very well be for real and your insensitivity pushes whatever hesitancy hey had out of their minds.

For some people perhaps they feel they can only talk about their problems in an anonymous fashion on TA, for many people it could be a form of help. It is a way to talk to people about problems you might be hesitant to admit to people who might judge them IRL.

I just don't find any humor in the situation.


i take it u werent around for aplz's alleged suicide..thats why most ppl were hesitant to help at all...ppl poured out there hearts to this guy and meanwhile he was behind his screen going hehe look at me i fooled them all..looke they actually care...so fuckin right we'd be hesitant about doint the same thing for a third time...we tried to just blow it off... thankfully i made this thread..and if the suicide didnt work at least now he knows we do care and that a post on here which this post was actually indirectly made for would relieve our worries...

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Orbax
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I guess Im an asshole then

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sym
Time for Revolution



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: NYC

Ya I wasn't directly involved in the aplz incident and have only heard of it from others, didn't actually see the thread I dont think but regardless don't punish others for what he did. If aplz made another thread than I would say it's fair game to say he's joking again but even than I don't know.

Suicide is a very serious topic and even if aplz did make another thread I think I would still try and console him. I dont know, I just couldn't take the chance of it being serious and assume it was a joke....

I understand where you are coming from though...

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Fast Turtle
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: At The Party House HP: 9302

Sleepinol is the same as Benadryl (Diphenhydramine
) apparently an antihistamine.

"If the patient survives the first 24 hours, the chance of survival is likely. Few patients actually die from an antihistamine overdose (see antihistamines - oral, antihistamines and decongestants - oral)."

http://www.rwjhamilton.org/Atoz/Enc...icle/002591.asp

Maybe he's okay and is just home visiting his family for thanksgiving.


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