Actually Dave. I'd say that if dance music is considered a joke art form by the rest of the world. It's not because of elitism. It's because to get paid $20,000 a gig to simply play mostly someone elses music in a club, doesn't put you in the same league as U2. The people who create the music are the artists and until they get the recognition by the DJ's who make thousands off them they'll continue to be the "joke" that to make reference to. Dave, do you actually go out to clubs to see how things have changed so much recently in the dance music scene? Do you see how it becomes harder for college kids to drop $25 in cover and buy $5 beers or $8 mixed drinks, when I would pay $5 to $10 and $3 beers just 3 years ago in Chicago. This has occured because of the cost to bring in dj's and I think the scene is going back to cheaper local talent. Which is very evident in Chicago. I don't mean to point things to you, but it seemed odd that you get very little constructive talk about you and too much "Dave sucks as a DJ." You've obviously worked hard to get where you are, but to go on saying what have YOU done to help the scene and why is it so bad that someone got successful in music and made a lot of people happy, only shows that you might be the elite one. It makes you come off bad. Maybe you should put yourself in the place of the people who pay for you to have a career.

quote:

Originally posted by GRIN Mr. DJ kyo doesn't look like he can even spell correctly so I am not bothered by what he has to say. People just pick apart people that are well known and try to find their flaws because they have nothing better to do.

that doesn't sound like anyone on TA

mb is got a good point there.

agree all you want - it's business 101, man. the price of something is what the market will bear. it doesn't mean it's right or wrong. it's just what is.

- dave

quote:

Originally posted by Noree mb is got a good point there.

Dave...my rant is just rant of thoughts I have about the club scene in America (Chicago). I don't blame the DJ's for getting every dollar they can. My issue is mostly with promoter's that pay such high fees rather than working hard to promote nights with lesser known acts that they could then charge a lower cover to allow more clubbers on limited budget to attend events on a regular weekly or bi-weekly basis. For years in Chicago I saw most every big and not-so-big DJ for $10 or less. These events were packed. Now you will pay no less then $20 for any DJ and bigger ones more. Turnout over the past few years has really gone down for all but the top 10 DJ's in the world. It's my opinion that the cost of going out once or twice every week has gone up so much (due to rising DJ rates and possibly greedy promoters and club owners) that building a successful club scene has become difficult. It sucks to go out for a very good DJ, only to see a easily half empty room. This is the case in Chicago right now. You'll see for yourself in a month and I'd look forward to see your honest opinion then.

Business 101 includes more than just getting what the market will bear. It's about getting people to return to your business on a regular basis, to be loyal customers. A business will be more successful over the long haul with a large group of loyal customers than it will with customers that can only buy what you are selling on a limited basis.

the scene is diying in usa thats why clubs dont get packed anymore, and my god did anyone went to 1015 to see G&D? i am not trying to be a bitch or anything like that but if you guys were there you will see me point, this people cannot mix, but great tunes....

djkyo u are an idiot and know nothign about the music so stop makin a fool of yourself. and i totaly agree with u on that one mb2004. and dave i have nothing against u...hell i love ur work...but whatever mb is sayin is damn true and needs to improve or the scene is going down the drain. anyway keep up good work and im lookin forward to seein u once again. late

i went to Spundae in LA couple month ago to check GnD and i had to say both of them were great!!. I've heard stuff bout they cant mix and stuff but.... they blown the roof off.. with the combo of Dave and Josh ,I think they are top 3 tag team DJs. Im most happy dat they are down to earth signing ALL my records^^ and Josh chated a bit with me N my friends.. soooooooooo wanted to hear "on a high" played but i know rule #1 never request a song, but im happy They both signed my "on a high " records.. Thanx GnD !

quote:

Originally posted by Noree djkyo u are an idiot and know nothign about the music so stop makin a fool of yourself. and i totaly agree with u on that one mb2004. and dave i have nothing against u...hell i love ur work...but whatever mb is sayin is damn true and needs to improve or the scene is going down the drain. anyway keep up good work and im lookin forward to seein u once again. late

Dont know nothing about music?? hahaha you are one funny person, first of all i can tell that is you that dont know shit about music do you even know anything about beatmaching? i guess not but what can i expect you are from LA, ill give you a tip, listen to them when you are not on X and you will see what i mean, actually whoever wants a copy of the set they did in SF let me know ill be happy to send it to you that way you can see what i am telking about....

uhhhhh ok...........what ever u say dude.....There is more to Djing then just beatmaching my fine furry friend.

hey kyo - i'd love to hear this set - seeing that niether of our sets from spundae gigs were recorded.

WHERE'S MY FUCKIN LESSONS ALREADY???!!!

- dave

quote:

Originally posted by djkyo Dont know nothing about music?? hahaha you are one funny person, first of all i can tell that is you that dont know shit about music do you even know anything about beatmaching? i guess not but what can i expect you are from LA, ill give you a tip, listen to them when you are not on X and you will see what i mean, actually whoever wants a copy of the set they did in SF let me know ill be happy to send it to you that way you can see what i am telking about....