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Digital Aura
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Sarnia, Ontario Christian Trance Producer

quote:
By the way, what does Christian dance music have to do with dance music in general? Dance music is religionless, raceless, genderless and without boundaries unlike many other of the genres out there.


Well...you're mostly right. But consider the message that some of these songs convey (vocal trance that is!)
Some aren't too "Christian" are they!
As you can see from the playlist I showed above, Christian Dance clubs and radio stations don't necessarily play CHRISTIAN dance music...as you say, for the most part the music itself is "without boundaries".

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WTF, remember the Crusades? maybe it wasnt Jebus, but it was definitely his 'contacts' here on Earth that decreed that bullshit|
Just so we're on the same page...my whole point is that unless you follow what Christ says and live as HE lived...you aint a CHRISTIAN...these "contacts" were not living as Christ nor were they in any way representative of real Christianity! This is what gives my faith a bad rep... people who act "in the name of" something they don't actually know or understand...people who say they are Christian but don't know ONE verse from the bible or even have a relationship with Christ.


P.S.

If you cant get the above link in my post to work, you can right click here and "SAVE TARGET" if you'd rather download this mix.
Its from a Christian Trance Radio Station and whether you're a Christian or not...its very good! MENEEDIT..i guarantee this has decent production values!

RIGHT CLICK AND SAVE! ENJOY!


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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
fact is, the only religions ruining anything are anti-Christ religions like Judaism and Islam, etc.

Are you serious?!

I can understand you're a Christian, and I really think it's a wonderful thing if you have something you believe in, but what you just said is a sign of a blind fundamentalist sort of xenophobia (in the religious sense), not faith!

I respect your belief in God and I do support you on this, but saying that your religion has never ruined anything... sorry mate, but the Church has had its (many) mistakes: remember, the Church is run by humans.


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biznology
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quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
...

Just so we're on the same page...my whole point is that unless you follow what Christ says and live as HE lived...you aint a CHRISTIAN...these "contacts" were not living as Christ nor were they in any way representative of real Christianity!...

...


they werent? i was being nice when referring the clergy.

quote:
THE CRUSADES (1096 - 1291 A.D.)
HELP BRING EUROPE OUT OF THE DARK AGES



A. What were the Crusades?

The Crusades were a series of Holy Wars in which the Christians of Europe tried to recapture the Holy Land (Palestine ) from the Muslims (Seljuk Turks).


from: http://hrsbstaff.ednet.ns.ca/mcalli...es/crusades.htm

?? holy war in the name of Christianity. i certainly dont have all the details, but it DID happen

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B. How the Crusades Began:

By the end of the 11th century, the Seljuk Turks had conquered the Arab holdings in the Near East. They adopted Islam as their religion and used Holy War as a reason for further attacks. They attacked the old eastern Roman Empire whose capital was Constantinople. Since the Eastern Empire was Christian, the Emperor called upon the Pope for help against these non-Christian invaders. Pope, Urban II called a council, of knights at Clermont in France in 1095. This council declared war against the Moslems and called upon all Christians to join a Crusade -- a military expedition to gain the Holy Land for Christians. Thus began the Crusading movement, which lasted for almost two hundred years and which produced a number of Crusades.


name of the Pope - NOT a religious leader?

??|

note: GAIN the holy lands, not just defense


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DJDigDug
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Registered: Oct 2002
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they werent? i was being nice when referring the clergy.



from: http://hrsbstaff.ednet.ns.ca/mcalli...es/crusades.htm

?? holy war in the name of Christianity. i certainly dont have all the details, but it DID happen



name of the Pope - NOT a religious leader?

??|

note: GAIN the holy lands, not just defense

In god the mighty oil buying George bush claims to trust, holy war number 2 or 3 or something,

Anyway this genre baffles me? The music half the time is made for druggies, now we have jesus people here??? Uh have you ever listened to psytrance? Much of the songs with vocals, are about drugs, or what you think about on drugs, or scientific alternatives to religion,

You have your Jesus, i have my chemistry, Jesus was made of Chemicals, so am i, so is the entire galaxy, thats my church and much like the guy who started this thread I get high on my religion too


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Dmatrox
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this isnt even a music discussion anymore


jeeebus +1

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Daver
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I don't understand this topic. Christian dance music? Huh? All I saw was flamebait from some person who felt the need to spread the word, as if we all haven't heard it before. Don't forget, God gave us free will to do as we please, but not to impose. You can't save everyone.

I was told there are 2 things you should never discuss in public: politics and religion. Good advice if I do say so myself.

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arctic
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Australia
Re: references...if you care..

quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
Christianity isnt a religion guys.


Incorrect. Let's take a look at dictionary.com shall we.

A search for 'Christianity comes up with 'The Christian religion, founded on the life and teachings of Jesus.'

A search for religion gets the following:
1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

Seems that you're wrong after all, eh?

As for your 'the only thing wrong with he world is anti-Christ religions' comment, what a load of crap. Lovely to see that you respect other's beliefs. It's also gratifying to see that you backed up your claim with sound evidence. Superb effort!

As for people getting offended at a few pictures of Jesus, get over it. It's a joke, if that offends you, then I can't imagine what it would be like actually living with you. I repeat, it's a joke.

By the way, because a song has the world 'angel' or something similar in it doesn't mean that it's a 'Christian song'. Sorry to break it to you, but there are other religions out there that involve the belief in and/or references to angels.

On a final note, here's another picture of Jesus for everyone's enjoyment!


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that anti semite comment was bull

christianity for everybody!


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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
..you think?

dude...religion aint the problem...definitely not CHRISTIANITY! I dont know when Jesus ever said to strike down those who dont believe in him, or wage war on those who wont follow His ways...fact is, the only religions ruining anything are anti-Christ religions like Judaism and Islam, etc.




I was christened but I don't believe in any of that bullshit.... Why ?

Well lets take all the 'wars'

Israel vs Palestine - Religion
Ireland/Northern Ireland - Religion
Muslim Extremists vs Bush Blair etc - Religion
Man United vs Man City - Football
Celtic - Rangers - Religion


There are many more, infact I'd say 90% minimum of all the wars in this world are down to religion, and what for, are muslims really better than others ? Did Jesus by choosing us say that we were better ? Is anybody better than anybody else due to intelligence, race, upbringing ? No

Keep believing you're better cos ur religious, you think that any 'god' would want you preaching against other religions, that is bullshit and it's about time people stopped hiding behind their 'religion' because it's nothing, I don't give a shit where someone is from and I'm not going to treat them any different cos they believe in something else, just a shame that all the sides in things cannot see that. War is the only outcome of it, and it's becoming boring & uncool to say otherwise to the point where you're no better than those you talk down on



ps neo, shift this bugger to political pls



Edit - If you think about it, there is no god's or jeebus' anyway, why do good people die young, why do rapists not get justice, why do earthquakes happen to people who get off their ass and pray and think that will prevent them, it won't

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arctic
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
ps neo, shift this bugger to political pls


No!

That will curtail my freedom to post amusing pictures featuring our favorite homie, Jebus.

+1 for Jebus!


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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by arctic
No!

That will curtail my freedom to post amusing pictures featuring our favorite homie, Jebus.

+1 for Jebus!


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quote:
Originally posted by Digital Aura
I dont know when Jesus ever said to strike down those who dont believe in him, or wage war on those who wont follow His ways...



not jeebus, but his dad god told many times to kill before telling not to kill! weird ain't it?

quote:

* Exodus 20:13 "Thou shalt not kill."
* Leviticus 24:17 "And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death."

vs.

* Exodus 32:27 "Thus sayeth the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, . . . and slay every man his brother, . . . companion, . . . neighbor."
* I Samuel 6:19 " . . . and the people lamented because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter."
* I Samuel 15:2,3,7,8 "Thus saith the Lord . . . Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. . . . And Saul smote the Amalekites . . . and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword."
* Numbers 15:36 "And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses."
* Hosea 13:16 "they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with children shall be ripped up."



i think your religion is full of shit. it's not doing any good to people either! it just limits you and your culture. but you're entitled to believe in all sorts of crap, so go ahead then if it makes you feel better, but keep it to yourself, don't come here (or anywhere else) preaching about it ffs! people will find god if they feel like it, you don't have to find him for them. let all people have their own way. your way is not the way for everyone you know, even though we're all damned and going to hell because it isn't (yeah really, i'm so scared )


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