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TiksA
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Originally posted by Cobalt
Yeah, I have better things to do.


No you don't coz you keep coming back to reply.

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
But I don't want a bunch of people blindly worshipping a DJ to become the culture of the music I love. Trance isn't about that.


I will worship whoever I want, youre not me and I'm not you. Some people worship Jesus, others worship money and some people don't worship anything. I'm a Tiesto fan, sue me!

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This isn't about the party experience. I don't really care if people had a great time.


I think you prolly never been to a club or a dance party. You sit on the hub all day downloading, listening to ASOT and you call tracks like Traffic shit coz your a cool mp3 kid!

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This is about the shameless perversion of the music important to me into a profitable rock-star idolatry.


So what? Some people wanna look upto someone else for insapration. WHo are you to judge them? Trance-God?

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Trance is about the journey and the experience, not who's spinning the records


No its not. Trance is about hat you make it to be for yourself. Music is what you make it to be and how you understand it, not what someone tells you.

Every person has a different taste and might not like something and enoy something else. Thats why I said that guy was a tool, coz he was selling his opinions to others, saying that they shouldn't even bother watching it.

I got friends @ uni who wouldn't go anywhere near dance music and they fucken love TiC DVD, they won't give it back!

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Sand Leaper
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Originally posted by Ste
i dunno, apart from cueing, you can stick any tunes together and they will still mix as such, it mgith sound mixing techno with prog trance but you can still mix it as such.


You can also mix by just slamming faders. As long as you play the right tunes you can "get away" with crappy beatmatching just like you can "get away" with a seriously ill-structured set. That does not change the fact that if you are clueless on either end, your set will suck end of. It might not be as in your face as galloping beats etc., but it will still be shit.


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Cobalt
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I think you prolly never been to a club or a dance party. You sit on the hub all day downloading, listening to ASOT and you call tracks like Traffic shit coz your a cool mp3 kid!


Oh my. That actually made me laugh.

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Ste
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You can also mix by just slamming faders. As long as you play the right tunes you can "get away" with crappy beatmatching just like you can "get away" with a seriously ill-structured set. That does not change the fact that if you are clueless on either end, your set will suck end of. It might not be as in your face as galloping beats etc., but it will still be shit.



but i think the point is, when tiesto wasnt beatmatching, he wasnt doing any of the other things now was he? seeing as cueing is done as soon as it needs to happen and structure, well he decided it before. so the only thing really is beatmatching.


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TiksA
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Oh my. That actually made me laugh.


My pleasure

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I got friends @ uni who wouldn't go anywhere near dance music and they fucken love TiC DVD, they won't give it back!


kinda answering our (and ishkur's) point with that there sentance, cheers.

however the mp3 comment is golden


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but i think the point is, when tiesto wasnt beatmatching, he wasnt doing any of the other things now was he? seeing as cueing is done as soon as it needs to happen and structure, well he decided it before. so the only thing really is beatmatching.


Yea, but my point was that Ishkur makes it seem like all Tiesto did thru his entire set was just chucking a record on the platter, beatmatch it, throw the faders and then repeat ad infinitum. And that isn't the case, despite how sub par his mixing was that evening.


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Ste
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Yea, but my point was that Ishkur makes it seem like all Tiesto did thru his entire set was just chucking a record on the platter, beatmatch it for 30 secs and then repeat ad infinitum. And that isn't the case, despite how sub par his mixing was that evening.



i think he was getting at the mixing 5 tunes then stopping all the time, etc.


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i think he was getting at the mixing 5 tunes then stopping all the time, etc.


Well a look at the tracklist easily refutes that claim


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Cobalt
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Yea, but my point was that Ishkur makes it seem like all Tiesto did thru his entire set was just chucking a record on the platter, beatmatch it, throw the faders and then repeat ad infinitum. And that isn't the case, despite how sub par his mixing was that evening.


That is a valid point. The set did have some structure. Though in the context of the DVD I don't think it makes much sense, since the set was chopped up and compressed.

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Ste
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Well a look at the tracklist easily refutes that claim


yeh it was more like 6 tunes i seem to rememebr.


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