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| quote: | Originally posted by Electronicmaji
whats so bad about creationism in schools? there is evidence to support it...evolution is just another theory...the school system tramples on parents rights right now to teach there children what they want them to be teached if a persons parents want them to be teached creationism or any principles of any time they have to pay for a private school and I think that is ridiculous the goverment should provide schools for people of all beliefs not just those who beleive in evolution... |
Bullshit there is - there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support creationism or ID - both are bunk. talkorigins.org is a good site if you're interested in evolution. Again. there is absolutely no evidence to support creationism – in fact, it has been thourghly disproved. Hopefully MisterOpus1 is around – he's the guy to talk to about the Evolution/Creationism controversy.
Evolution is science, creationism is not. Creationism should not be taught in science class. The only place creationism should have is either in a comparative religion & philosophy class, or used in science as an exampole of a falsified theory that's been disproven and debunked time and time again.
Not believing in evolution is like maintaining that the earth psi flat, or that the sun orbits the earth - it's that simple. If you'd like take this further: open a thread in the political forum, there are numerous people there who will gladly take you on with regards to this.
| quote: | Originally posted by Heinz
well, you know, the US democracy was written and based on christian values and laws. the USA was founded on teh principles of christianity. back in the 1800's ext., if a public school did not teach about jesus in the curriculim, they didnt get gov't funding. coins all say "in god we trust". if u read the constitution, there are numerous referencest to god and the bible. |
That's a blatant lie and you know it. You sprouted this rubbish in the political forum and watched your arguments dismantled by DrUg_TiTo, MisterOpus, Myself, Diginut etc. - so why are still using them?
Read the constitution - specifically the first amendment and the establishment clause. There is separation of church and state - meaning that the state cannot, and does not endorse, impose or support any particular religion or religious belief. There are no references to the Christian god or the bible in the constitution. Either you're astonishingly ignorant - or you're lying. Quite frankly, I'm going with the latter. The 'in god we trust' is technically in violation of the establishment clause, and if history is anything to go by, will eventually get legally challenged.
Seriously - just stop lying, it doesn't do anything to further your case.
| quote: | Originally posted by Heinz
if your not christian, u can always join the democratic party. the liberal side of the gov't. they support gay marraige somewhat, immigrants, abortion, and other things liberal. |
Thanks for the lecture - but I already know what the democratic party is and what it stands for.  I'm not an American, and hence wont be joining the, - but yes, I do support them over the republicans.
| quote: | | the founding fathers made the "freedom of religion" part of the 1st amendment, b/c they wanted a gov't that wasnt strict and persecute its people. which is why so many immigrants came for religious freedom. they wanted to make a country that was free from any monarch or dictator, and "given the pursuit of happiness". |
What? That's utterly nonsensical. They made freedom of religion and separation of church and state because they wanted separation of church and state. They had been persecuted in Europe for their religious beliefs - and as such understood that theocracies weren't the best idea. Do you even know what freedom of religion means?
| quote: | | it wasnt because they saw "separation of church and state". they based the constitution on the morals of christianity.. |
FFS - are you completely blind?
How was it explicitly based off the morals of Christianity? Go on - provide some evidence. Cite sources and provide examples please.
| quote: | Originally posted by Vigilante
I don't know about schools in Columbia, but in Australia we are tought evolution, creationism and other theories from a young age in all public schools (schools run by the government). |
Eh? Since when is creationism taught in Australian schools?  Heck - even the religious schools teach evolution.
There - rant over. 
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