"I'm a sound freak," he admits - the quality wasn't high enough for him. So Van Dyk stores his tunes as uncompressed AIFF files instead, and for added refinement, he gives every track an extra smoothing for the dance floor. "Everything I play goes through the mastering setup of my studio," he explains, "so everything you hear sounds even better than the original record."
jeff, can you put the file on your server, i can download and give it to scott to post.
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Jun-07-2004 15:58
Scottaculous
habitual line crosser
Registered: Mar 2001
Location: On a plane
quote:
Originally posted by 3xx3r7
I admit PvD's flaws, such as usage of Final Scratch a.k.a. mixing mp3's and the whole idea behind baseline.
Not to single you out specifically because many others have the same misconception. Nor am I trying to convince anyone which DJ is better. But, PvD does not need to spin mp3s because he, like Tiesto and Armin, gets CD quality promos long before mp3 release groups get their hands on the tracks. That is not to say PvD has never done it because I know of one time he spun a friend's track on CD in NYC. I doubt PvD knew it was a mp3 however.
About the whole bassline thing... Where do I start with this one...
1. PvD's tracklist has more unedited tracks than edited, reworked, produced tracks combined.
2. Tiesto has trouble mixing his OWN tracks.
3. Tiesto fans saying mixing isn't all that important YET he bring up how "easy" it is for PvD to mix.
4. Having the same or different basslines does not really help mixing. DJs usually switch low frequencies when the bassline of the incoming track kicks in. The hardest thing to do is mixing in key.
Jun-07-2004 15:58
3xx3r7
Speedy J addict
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: with your mom
quote:
Originally posted by gcrasher
Not to get on you too bad but...
No way PvD has ever played an MP3 file live.
Isn't final scratch involves mixing Audio files? Enlighten me, if I am wrong...
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Jun-07-2004 16:12
Scottaculous
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: On a plane
quote:
Originally posted by ambs
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Jun-07-2004 16:13
Scottaculous
habitual line crosser
Registered: Mar 2001
Location: On a plane
quote:
Originally posted by 3xx3r7
Isn't final scratch involves mixing Audio files? Enlighten me, if I am wrong...
FS plays MP3, WAVE, AIFF, and CD audio.
EDIT:
I guess I should expand on that. Allows the user to have the feel of vinyl without having to carry vinyl. Basically, you have two special vinyl plates with timecode embedded on the vinyl. As the needle runs through that time code, it's transmitted to FS hub and then onto the laptop. Partnering with Native Instrument's Traktor, Traktor plays the audio file at the corresponding time code and sends that to the mixer.
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Jun-07-2004 16:16
arturob
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Miami
quote:
Originally posted by 3xx3r7
Isn't final scratch involves mixing Audio files? Enlighten me, if I am wrong...
"I'm a sound freak," he admits - the quality wasn't high enough for him. So Van Dyk stores his tunes as uncompressed AIFF files instead, and for added refinement, he gives every track an extra smoothing for the dance floor. "Everything I play goes through the mastering setup of my studio," he explains, "so everything you hear sounds even better than the original record."
The only thing I was impressed with on Magik Music night was Sander! Tiesto was good, but I wasn't taken on any journeys other than the one up to the terrace.
Also, I hope the hardcore Tiesto backers aren't Oakenfold haters, because you could use that same diversity / mixing different styles with him. IMHO I put Oakey & Tiesto on the same level right now.
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Jun-07-2004 16:23
DSmalls
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: west palm beach, fl
quote:
Originally posted by 3xx3r7
Isn't final scratch involves mixing Audio files? Enlighten me, if I am wrong...
yeah, but an MP3 is compressed and of lower quality... so it doesn't rock your chest cavity at space like something of CD quality. Those DJs have HUGE hard drives and a 10min MP3 that takes up 14MB takes up maybe 70 or 80MB. So yeah, mixing audio files but different than MP3. The criticism of MP3 is that they're downloading them, but obviously PvD, Tiesto, Armin, etc aren't hangin out on soulseek lookin for their new choons...
but we digress...
i have to say this because it wasn't finished properly earlier...
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all smell like shit!
Here's the point though.... GET PSYCHED FOR TIESTO!!!!
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Jun-07-2004 16:24
DJ Mikey Mike
Your mum's face
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: I'm at your mums'
quote:
Originally posted by Got Trance?
I beg to differ Tiesto is better then armin. But avb is hot right now i must say
AvB is about as hot right now as Pat Sharp in a freezer. And Tiesto is the biggest farce to EDM since Puff Daddy.
Grief.
Okay kiddies, Carry on.
Jun-07-2004 16:28
DSmalls
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: west palm beach, fl
quote:
Originally posted by ex-dj
IMHO I put Oakey & Tiesto on the same level right now.
hmmm... i'm half way there with you... you make a good point, but not the same level. I saw both during conference... tiesto isn't great, but oakey is one lazy sonofabitch. On numerous tracks he really waited till the very end where it was basically just bassline and mixed new in at very beginning with just bassline. Also, I've never seen anyone have to keep playin with the decks as much as oakey to try and get his beat matched. Time after time you could see him start to want to mix in, but lose it or some shit and have to start over. He also would pick the record up off one deck and put it on the another as if it would be easier using the other deck (maybe it was, i've just never seen anyone doing that there before). Ohhhh & tiesto plays better tracks too.
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Jun-07-2004 16:30
Scottaculous
habitual line crosser
Registered: Mar 2001
Location: On a plane
quote:
Originally posted by DSmalls
hmmm... i'm half way there with you... you make a good point, but not the same level. I saw both during conference... tiesto isn't great, but oakey is one lazy sonofabitch. On numerous tracks he really waited till the very end where it was basically just bassline and mixed new in at very beginning with just bassline. Also, I've never seen anyone have to keep playin with the decks as much as oakey to try and get his beat matched. Time after time you could see him start to want to mix in, but lose it or some shit and have to start over. He also would pick the record up off one deck and put it on the another as if it would be easier using the other deck (maybe it was, i've just never seen anyone doing that there before). Ohhhh & tiesto plays better tracks too.
I think both have the talent to mix well but due to whatever reason just plainly don't. At the end of the day, it's not about what you can do but what you have done.
