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MisterOpus1
Grumpy Old Fart



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

quote:
Originally posted by DjSway
heh heh, well to tell you the truth I'm not sure. I may say too much freedom can be bad, but it is still a great country we live in. One example is, even though they are protected under our freedom of speech,is the KKK. Not something we support or want to see but they exist and have the right to march and do many pretty things they do.
Does this type of freedom apply to these particular groups in other countries?


But taken as a whole, how does society judge the KKK? Pretty damn despicable, right? And that is precisely my point - the freedom and liberty to do something stupid, albeit lawful, is subject to public scrutiny and ridicule.

IOW, I believe our society, for the most part, judges pretty well what is and what is not considered "correct" behavior, even if that ridiculous behavior is lawful. Hence our system works very well, and shows the genious of our Constitutional forefathers.

So in essence, the freedom you have to voice your opinion about your currently elected leaders, and more importantly to vote for your elected leaders, must be the exact same freedom to allow those idiots to put pillow cases on their heads and yell "White Power!" on the State Capital's steps. We simply cannot have one without the other, at least I know of no logical or ethical way to have one without the other. But at the same time, we must allow society to correctly scrutinize what is appropriate behavior, even within the confines of Constitutional law.


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DjSway
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Irvine, Sunny Southern CAli

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
But taken as a whole, how does society judge the KKK? Pretty damn despicable, right? And that is precisely my point - the freedom and liberty to do something stupid, albeit lawful, is subject to public scrutiny and ridicule.

IOW, I believe our society, for the most part, judges pretty well what is and what is not considered "correct" behavior, even if that ridiculous behavior is lawful. Hence our system works very well, and shows the genious of our Constitutional forefathers.

So in essence, the freedom you have to voice your opinion about your currently elected leaders, and more importantly to vote for your elected leaders, must be the exact same freedom to allow those idiots to put pillow cases on their heads and yell "White Power!" on the State Capital's steps. We simply cannot have one without the other, at least I know of no logical or ethical way to have one without the other. But at the same time, we must allow society to correctly scrutinize what is appropriate behavior, even within the confines of Constitutional law.


Well said, but I think that in cases of lawsuits, there should be some kind of restrictions or such. Not relating to this lawsuit but ridiculous ones like mom sues Mac Donalds for making her kids fat, or woman sues for Janet's boob.

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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

quote:
Originally posted by DjSway
Well said, but I think that in cases of lawsuits, there should be some kind of restrictions or such. Not relating to this lawsuit but ridiculous ones like mom sues Mac Donalds for making her kids fat, or woman sues for Janet's boob.


Hey, who doesn't hate frivolous lawsuits? But like I said, you gotta put up with the "bads" in order to have the "goods".

Besides, a number of state lawmakers are creating Amendments that limit frivolous lawsuits of this nature, like the "fast-food making us fat" type situations.


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DjSway
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Location: Irvine, Sunny Southern CAli

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Hey, who doesn't hate frivolous lawsuits? But like I said, you gotta put up with the "bads" in order to have the "goods".

Besides, a number of state lawmakers are creating Amendments that limit frivolous lawsuits of this nature, like the "fast-food making us fat" type situations.


What? I have to submit my lawsuit against Tranceaddict for making me addicted to trance.

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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

quote:
Originally posted by DjSway
What? I have to submit my lawsuit against Tranceaddict for making me addicted to trance.


Ehh? Hell no - that's a legitimate complaint! Take Swamper for all he's worth!


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Shakka
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quote:
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Ehh? Hell no - that's a legitimate complaint! Take Swamper for all he's worth!


You mean you guys actually listen to trance music??? I haven't listened to any good new trance in a while. Any good suggestions? I'm not about to take this question to the music forum--I'd be a stranger in a strange land.

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DjSway
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I love this country and what it can do for me!

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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
You mean you guys actually listen to trance music??? I haven't listened to any good new trance in a while. Any good suggestions? I'm not about to take this question to the music forum--I'd be a stranger in a strange land.


To be completely honest, yeah I still do every once in a while - usually just for "old time sake". For the most part, however, I don't listen much to anything dance-wise anymore. Hell, the last CD I bought was Dizzie Gillespie's greatest hits, so that may give you an idea where my music interests lie lately!

The last time the Mrs. and I listened to "trance" was about 2 weeks ago when she slipped in a Ferry Corsten CD and attempted to recall the last time we listened to it. We both drew blanks. Funny thing about drugs and memory - they don't mix well.


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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

i'm to old to dance. i just kinda bop in my chair listening to prog thinking about the new world order. pathetic

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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
To be completely honest, yeah I still do every once in a while - usually just for "old time sake". For the most part, however, I don't listen much to anything dance-wise anymore. Hell, the last CD I bought was Dizzie Gillespie's greatest hits, so that may give you an idea where my music interests lie lately!

The last time the Mrs. and I listened to "trance" was about 2 weeks ago when she slipped in a Ferry Corsten CD and attempted to recall the last time we listened to it. We both drew blanks. Funny thing about drugs and memory - they don't mix well.



Edit: my comments about suing Tranceaddict were more or less because us bleedin' heart liberals "feel" the pain of these hapless victims in our society, and that all lawsuits deserve merit and money.

Right?

Guys?

Hello?

Class? Anyone, anyone?

Damn crickets.


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DjSway
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Location: Irvine, Sunny Southern CAli
Worm Popper

Cricket...

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smokeape
Lowland Trance Addict



Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Heart of Dixie

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
You mean you guys actually listen to trance music??? I haven't listened to any good new trance in a while. Any good suggestions? I'm not about to take this question to the music forum--I'd be a stranger in a strange land.


Check my posts on COR. Always new trance since I spend 2/3 on MP3 sites and only about 1/3 or less here. I'm in it for the music and not the conversation...


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Tory Kay - The Rising Sun (Magane Mix)

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