Originally posted by malek
we are slowly seeing the Saudis loosing ranks in the US's "top friendly nations".
The americans want to reduce as much as possible their dependence on Saudi oil and this would be achieved by reopening the doors to Iraqi oil, and developping the caucasian/central asian petroluem fields.
ok, damn and the worst about this,is they got reserves of their own that are probably untouched.
man
what a movie
if it was longer than that i would have died
Jun-30-2004 05:08
discojoe
GO SENS
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Ottawa Canada
quote:
Originally posted by RnakR
Come on !
CNN shows the facts they want....
so does micheal moore as torontotrance just pointed out. whats the difference? its just facts you may want to hear in stead of those you dont...
quote:
Originally posted by malek
propaganda is the news that the govt wants you to hear. It can be facts, half-facts by omitting information, complete lack of coverage of something that might interest the population, etc etc.
replace "govt" with fat gluttonous attention seaking american and you have michael moore. it is no different! you just defend it cause you like the message. propaganda is ok when its left wing and allies itself with the arab cause!
you guys are so rediculous it makes my skin burn. so hypocrytical and contradictory.
Originally posted by discojoe
so does micheal moore as torontotrance just pointed out. whats the difference? its just facts you may want to hear in stead of those you dont...
replace "govt" with fat gluttonous attention seaking american and you have michael moore. it is no different! you just defend it cause you like the message. propaganda is ok when its left wing and allies itself with the arab cause!
you guys are so rediculous it makes my skin burn. so hypocrytical and contradictory.
wtf?? the arab cause? we don't need moore to defend the "arab cause".
the documentary is about George Bush and his bad management of the US of A!
Originally posted by ZinG
discojoe did you watch the movie?
hah i guess to be fair not yet, a friend has it and i should watch it tomorrow or thursday. I will comment about the movie itself when i see it. im basing my opinion of him on two other movies i saw of his. Roger and me, and The Big one. Both i thought were horrible and full of holes. I thought both were very poorly done and extremely one sided and unfair. And while truthfully i havnt seen this one yet, nobody, including michael moore himself will deny the fact that it suffers from the same problems.
Jun-30-2004 05:49
Superstar
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Ottawa, Canada
quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
In his upcoming film, he talks to congressmen and tries to get them to send their sons to war but he mysteriously left out his oncamera interview with Mark Kennedy (Rep from Minn), who has his two sons in the Army (biased, I think so)
If by 2 sons you mean 2 nephews, then yes you're right!
Jun-30-2004 06:10
malek
drinks your milkshake!
Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal
quote:
Originally posted by discojoe
hah i guess to be fair not yet, a friend has it and i should watch it tomorrow or thursday. I will comment about the movie itself when i see it. im basing my opinion of him on two other movies i saw of his. Roger and me, and The Big one. Both i thought were horrible and full of holes. I thought both were very poorly done and extremely one sided and unfair. And while truthfully i havnt seen this one yet, nobody, including michael moore himself will deny the fact that it suffers from the same problems.
Look Joe, don't be naive. Do you think that its possible to cram thousands of pages of documentation in a 2 hour documentary? And even if it was possible, would it be something that would attract the masses and spark intrest?
What Moore does is telling people that Bush is doing bad things while backing it up with a fair number of evidence. Its the viewer's duty to research furthermore the subject if he believes that he hasn't heard enough or if he doesn't believe it.
