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Cosmic
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: home

quote:
Originally posted by trak_one
I just recorded a cd which I consider hard trance and maybe just a touch of hardstyle. Here's the track listing so maybe you could tell me if you consider it all hard trance or not.

1. The Rhythm - Cosmic Gate (Original Mix)
2. Exploration of Space - Cosmic Gate (DJ Shredda remix)
3. Shine - Zagros & Pacific (DJ Wag remix)
4. The Way - D-Vided (Original Mix)
5. God Music - Dumonde (Cosmic Gate remix)
6. Sky - Dito (Talla 2XLC remix)
7. F*ck Da Beatz - Stimulant DJ's (Original mix)
8. Blow Da Roof - Stimulant DJ's (Original mix)
9. Second Step - DJ Wag (Yakooza Remix)
10. French Kiss - Yakooza (DJ Wag Remix)
11. Future Shock - DJ Virus (LeBrisc Remix)
12. Space Odyssey - Klasic & sanders (Original Mix)


I dont know all the songs, but seeing the names I would calssify this as hardtrance.

PS: You need to update your records mate, some oldies you have


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Old Post Jun-29-2004 13:22  Netherlands
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Tranceguy1
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Paradise City where the Grass is green and the Girls are pretty...

quote:
Originally posted by SilverX
"Commander Tom" maybe?


Hell yeah - "Are Am Eye" by Commander Tom started hard trance

Look into:

Commander Tom, Nuclear Hyde, Captain Tinrib, OD404, Karim....

Hard Trance at its best...


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Old Post Jun-29-2004 13:27  United States
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T-1000
Searching for a rhythm...



Registered: Jun 2003
Location: In the wrong place at the wrong time

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
DHHD are a Hardstyle act. Uberdruck are german hard trance

I still maintain that they are German Hard Techno


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Old Post Jun-29-2004 13:30  India
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Peter K
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Behind The Sun

quote:
Originally posted by Lotus
You're an idiot.


I also used to think hard trance was awesome, when i was in my immature teen years, but when you mature you begin to appreciate songs that possess beauty and bliss, and musical skill rather than how much mindless noise/energy they have.Take a listen to Chicanes Far From The Maddening Crowds, Cosmic Gate etc couldn't produce that kind of harmonious soul-touching music if their life depended on it.

I don't see how ppl can stand those silly kicks that sound kitchen utensils hitting each other, and those dodgy basslines..


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by teknoking
when you mature you begin to appreciate songs that possess beauty and bliss, and musical skill rather than how much mindless noise/energy they have.


Maybe you did, but did it ever occur to your fascist mind that other people might have different tastes? Beauty and bliss is fine in some situations, but sometimes hard music is what is needed. Stop being so bloody narrow-minded thinking that because it doesn't fit your tastes it's suddenly a disgrace to music.


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Synchronized
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Melbourne, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by teknoking
I also used to think hard trance was awesome, when i was in my immature teen years, but when you mature you begin to appreciate songs that possess beauty and bliss, and musical skill rather than how much mindless noise/energy they have.Take a listen to Chicanes Far From The Maddening Crowds, Cosmic Gate etc couldn't produce that kind of harmonious soul-touching music if their life depended on it.

I don't see how ppl can stand those silly kicks that sound kitchen utensils hitting each other, and those dodgy basslines..


But producers such as Cosmic Gate are not trying to make music that touch people's souls. They make music for people to dance to.. how is that a disgrace to electronic 'dance' music?


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Old Post Jun-29-2004 13:49  Australia
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Mebot
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Seattle

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Maybe you did, but did it ever occur to your fascist mind that other people might have different tastes? Beauty and bliss is fine in some situations, but sometimes hard music is what is needed. Stop being so bloody narrow-minded thinking that because it doesn't fit your tastes it's suddenly a disgrace to music.


agreed

comparing chicane and cosmic gate is like comparing apples and oranges. And i must say i like both artists equally as well.. it just depends on my mood

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Chang monkey
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: London

quote:
Originally posted by Tranceguy1
Hell yeah - "Are Am Eye" by Commander Tom started hard trance

Look into:

Commander Tom, Nuclear Hyde, Captain Tinrib, OD404, Karim....

Hard Trance at its best...


The UK and European Hard Trance scene is totally stale now. I used to love it. Tinrib, Weirdo, BK, TDV, and 0d404 made sum phat tunes. Karim was always a bit shit tho . As of late Tidy have removed ne credibility the scene once had. Other labels like Vicious r still bringing out sum tunes, but with HardHouse incorporating more and more techno influences, id rather just listen to straightup Techno.
As For the European scene, the Departure of S.H.O.K.K has weakened the genre and the only real Hard Trance artists i have listened to lately is A*S*Y*S.


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Icesotope
Laicifitra Ecnegilletni



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Ipoh

Past Yearz Hardtrance
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Interstate
Mega Lo Mania
Exit EEE
Cocooma
Nuclear Hyde
Framic
DJ Ricci & Moratto
Hitch Hiker & J. Dumondt (NO, HE'S NOT DUMONDE)
DJ Yanny & Paragod (back then when they were in Fog Area Productions)
DJ Jo
Nostrum
DJ Crack
Plug & Play
Ramirez
Revil O
John '00' Fleming (Yea he was one of the master of hardtrance back then)
Gary D (Another master of hardtrance back then, now involved in hardstyle)
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Nowadays Hardtrance
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DJ Jam-X & Dominki De Leon
Cosmic Gate
Dave 202 & Phil Green
Future Breeze Vs Junkfood Junkies (er.. hard to explain)
Mat Silver & Tony Burt
DJ Scot PRoject
Hennes & Cold
Kai Tracid
Hypetraxx
ASYS
DJ Sakin & Torsten Stenzel
Yakooza
DJ Wag
DJ Overdog (he's currently into hardstyle)
YOMC
DJ Arne ILL & Mirko Milano
Russenmafia
Schwarze Puppen
Michael Fusseder
Aquaplex
Junk Project
DJ Luca Antolini
DJ Sequenza
Walt & Feliz
Druckteknik
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Hardtrance Wannabe (Partially Hardtrance and Hardstyle)
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Trance Generators (The Beginning of Hardtrance to Hardstyle)
Lorenzo De Preti (Skam, Digital Gureillas, Tweetwoof...bla bla bla a Mix of Y4k hardtrance and hardstyle)
Warmduscher (Same as TG)
Mass In Orbit Team
DJ Tom-X
Virus Inc.
DJ Shoko & Groundzero DJ Team
Jendrick De Ruvo & La Cargo
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OTHERS (WHICH ALWAYS GETS MISTAKEN AS HARDTRANCE)
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DJ Choci & The Geezer
Lee Haslam
Guyver
Andreas Kramer (YEA He does hardtrance but under the name of JUnk Project & Aquaplex but his original part was Acidtechno and HE IS NOT ANDREAS KREMER FOR CRYING OUT LOUD)
Uberdruck Boys (The Crow, Shredda & Ludvigh, Bonito & Julio are a no no to hardtrance nor hardstyle. They have a very unique way of putting their masterpieace)
Sven-R-G & Bass T (aka Rocco & Sebastian are somehow mistaken as hardtrance by some loosers out there)
Stee Wee Bee (Another victim...)
Yoji Biomehanika
Stimulant DJs
Roosta
DJ Taylor & Flow (dot dot dot....)
Aquagen (Bullshit music)
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Pure H.A.R.D.S.T.Y.L.E.
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Technoboy (DJ Gius, K-Traxx, Tuneboy,...etc. This guy has tonnes of hardstyle alias)
DJ Stardust
Indurro
Sam Punk
Blutonium Boy (Dirk aka Session One is his "Trance" project)
The KGBs
DHHD
Lady Dana
Deepack (formally known as Frank-E & Mars-L)
DJ Zany
DJ Pavo
Smurref
Beholder & Balistic
Julian DJ & David Sonar
KAT
DJ Isaac
Supermacho May
A-Lusion
Le Brisc
DJ Activator
DJ Vortex & Arpa Dream
J.i.m.m.y. The Sound
Sisma DJ
Zenith

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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

Michael Fusseder and Walt are hardstyle.


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Lotus
tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2003
Location: SF Bay Area, California

quote:
"Icesotope"
OTHERS (WHICH ALWAYS GETS MISTAKEN AS HARDTRANCE)
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Lee Haslam
Guyver
Stimulant DJs
Roosta


Funny how you mention these guys as mistaken hard trance producers. They do produce Hard Trance tracks, after all. Producer/DJ's can have more than one style.

Old Post Jun-29-2004 17:27  United States
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[N]ûk|êû[Z]
The Producer Addict



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Where Angelz Fear To Tread.

quote:
Originally posted by Polak
what would you say about a ""group"" called DHHD?


dont laugh but DHHD are considered techno hardstyle .. not a true genre just involves less cheese elements of normal hardstyle.. tends to be a bit tougher.. DHHD are my sorta hardstyle really, and luna being my fave hardstyle DJ [hoo funnily enough is DHHD ]


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