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Nik Novo
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Munich, Germany

well, there actually were some good fragma tracks like "Toca's Miracle", "Everytime you need me" (especially the Above & Beyond Remix!!) or "You Are Alive"

But also many of their productions, like man in the moon ( ) were pure shit


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montana
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: södertälje. sweden

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Originally posted by Cream21
If you take a deeper look behind FRAGMA you find the producers Ramon Zenker and the Duderstadt Brothers. Both are repspected artists and everybody who knows a bit of music, know they are for sure talented. Ramons projects like Hardfloor, Exit E, Da Damn Phreak Noize Funk, Mega Lo Mania, Phenomania, ... are real dance classics and even the younger Duderstadt brothers are known for there release as Duderstadt and Davy van Eynde ... (played from Armin and all other big trance DJs).


iknow ramon did great work in the past but when he decided to produce crap like he did with fragma, paffendorf & bellini, he decided to go with the cash instead of good creative & uncheesy music. i still won't forgive ramon of butchering cafe del mar but luckily he has gone with his sences and started to make tracks like hardfloor again with olivies, thank god


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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

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Originally posted by Cream21
What do you wanna make then? If you wanna make a commercial dance track it has to be easy, simple melody, catchy vocals .. thats the recepy for a commercial track. Sure that for this you don't have to be that creative.

Don't wanna say that the Fragma project is a world wonder in creativity. But what helps you all your creativity when in the end of the month there is no money on your account to have a living and to make creative music?

What I wanna say is that I think it's more then legal if creative producers once in a while making also a commercial track that they also earn some money. Especially today where 50% of the people who own a creative and cool track have it illegal as mp3?

So bevor you judge over artists / producers maybe take first a look on the background, here especially the Fragma producers done a lot of the music scene so I grant them there commercial success.

I don't care what their motives are or why they do it, it doesn't make Fragma's music any better. I don't care if producers want to make money (hey, everyone's gotta make a living) but Fragma is shit regardless.


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Snooper
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Oslo

IMO Fragma has made two decent productions:

Fragma - Toca Me (Club Mix)
Miss Thunderpussy - The Ride (Fragma Remix)

The rest is cheese with a big C. Let me quote a review of their album "Toca":

"How bad can an album be? Cashing in on the success of Toca's Miracle and Toca Me, Fragma deliver their debut album which features eleven pop-orientated tracks. This could esily be mistaken for Aqua - yes, its that bad."

Says it all really about the quality of Fragma's music - they're pop, not trance.


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RisingStar
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Brighton, UK

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
yes but you're renowned for having the worst taste of music on tranceaddict.... apart from the gabriel & dresden fans


My thoughts exactly.....

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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Northern Ireland

Toca Me is still one of the best tracks from '99, a classic

The rest of Fragmas stuff since , including Miracle, is bullshit


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