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Originally posted by SportTrance Ok, so you dont study for your tests, you dont do your homework, yet you pass every course. Basically, all you have to do is listen in class to pass. Which means all testing was based on in-class lecturing.

Not exactly, very often we were required to take in class notes or do in class assignments.

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When all I have to do is listen in class, I call it an easy ass course, though for egotistical reasons, most people wont admit that.

It doesn't matter what I called it, the general consensus among most other students was that the class was hard.

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Then you went to an easy highschool. If you never studied, and never did homework, then the majority of all testing had to be based on in-class lecturing

Most good teachers lecture(preferrably at length) about the subject they teach. I had a teacher that did nothing but read from the book and give assignments. She gave simple tests that were word for word questions from assignments we had had days before--often the previous day. She gave projects that were worth more than all test grades in the class combined. She would read out of the book for 10-15 minutes, give an assignment, then go play solitaire on her computer. That's what I call a bad teacher. Bitch even said I had a photographic memory when I suggested she make tests worth more. She was fired shortly after I left her class.

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And as I said, if you can pass a course just off in-class lecture, its an easy course. So based on your quote above, you went to, in my opinion, an easy school.

Neither the courses nor the school was easy, but tests have always been...no matter what school or class i'm in.

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As I said in my post above, where I attended, it was pretty much impossible to pass a course unless you did the homework, listened in class, and studied before the test. That goes for the students who were at the top of the class. I never met one brain at my school, who didnt bust his ass, and these are kids that moved up to ivy league education.

Well i'm sure you didn't meet everyone. I met many "brains" who "busted his/her ass". No doubt they will move up to ivy league education. They do their useless homework.

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Fortunately, standardized testing helps prevent the injustices, and is one reason why it exists.

Ah, standardized tests. I've never scored below 70th percentile even on my weak subjects, and always well above 90th on reading/language. I was once recommended for my schools GATE (gifted and talented education) program. Unfortunately I was kicked out once again for not living up to what was "expected" of me. As you might imagine, what was "expected" of me was, for the most part, to do my homework and projects. Test scores be damned.

I don't really see where your conjecture of schools is getting you anywhere, whatever the statistics say.

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Originally posted by keithos27 how can you possibly make a generalization like this? that is totally NOT the case in every class... some classe have just too much material to learn in just the time alloted for classes, thus making "studying" necessary for many. maybe in your 8th grade algebra, class, but not the case in many universities or post-graduate professional courses... -keith

i had to study for my 8th grade algebra class that shit was hard asshole.

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Originally posted by SportTrance Can you please stop reading my posts towards radagast as posts towards you. The only argument going on between you and me, is the the public vs private school system. Not my private school vs your private school. How did you pull that out. He attended a public highschool, you went to a private, and he openly stated he never had to study, nor do homework to pass. Frankly, thats no way possible at the school I attended. In-class lecture covered maybe 25% of the material, and nothing more. Whether its possible at your private school or not, I could care less, thats not our argument. . I have no idea what private school you went to, I have no idea what their requirements are, it could be the best and most challenging private school in the nation for all I know. I'm not arguing with you whether you'd be able to "hack it" or not. Why in the world would I argue which private school is better, I thought we both agreed, the argument between you and me, was private school vs public. and then this: My post: "well, that is exactly what im doing. Placed low on math, high in english (as always). I'm still in fucking fundamental math." Your reply: "I wouldn't go so far as to say that math is simple compared to english, or that english is simple compared to math. They're two different subjects, with (generally) different styles of thinking, although there is a good amount of crossover between the two." I still can't figure how you pulled that out of what I said. Frankly, all of its creeping me out. Dyslexia maybe? I cant figure it out.

It's not that I'm reading your posts towards Radagast as posts towards me (although it's entirely possible that I did in fact read them as directed towards me), but I agree with Radagast and an lending my support in the argument.

Ahh and I pulled that math thing out of a different sentence, maybe I quoted the wrong section or something, but you said something like "the reason we (Sporttrance and slylee) do poorly in math is because our minds are too advanced for it."

It seemed like a joke at first, but then she appeared to take it seriously, and you didn't say anything to indicate it was a joke, so I posted that in reponse.

You know what? fFckit. It's just easier to not argue at all.

So eh....you win, we draw, I win, whatever, I don't really care, whatever makes you happiest. I don't see the point in arguing over something as arbitrary as this.