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verndogs
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Registered: Jan 2004
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sexson & beltre to seattle
hudson to atlanta for 3 prospects

been a fun week for the hot stove


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ESPN reports Yanks close to getting Randy Johnson with 3 team trade with Dodgers. Yanks give up Javier "Giving Up HR's" Vasquez, Eric Duncan, and Dioner Navarro. Sounds good to me!!

RJ vs. Schilling in next year's playoffs. Watch RJ fawking throwing heat. I hope he sends a 99 mph fastball in Papi Ortiz' earhole. J/K


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ludawg23
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Clement to the Redsox.

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Shamez214
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Basin City

Mulder to the Cards for Haren, Colero, & Daric Barton.
Now the A's are in position to compete for the NEXT 5 years. Beane is awesome. The A's now have the best bullpen in baseball (on paper, who knows how they will perform).


And anyone who thinks that all Omar is going to do this off season is sign Pedro needs to open their eyes. I still wouldn't be surprised to see:

Reyes
Matsui
Wright
Manny
Piazza
Alou
Cameron
Mientkiewicz

They're going hard after Delgado now. Probably Beltran too.


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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
Mulder to the Cards for Haren, Colero, & Daric Barton.
Now the A's are in position to compete for the NEXT 5 years. Beane is awesome. The A's now have the best bullpen in baseball (on paper, who knows how they will perform).


And anyone who thinks that all Omar is going to do this off season is sign Pedro needs to open their eyes. I still wouldn't be surprised to see:

Reyes
Matsui
Wright
Manny
Piazza
Alou
Cameron
Mientkiewicz

They're going hard after Delgado now. Probably Beltran too.


I don't see Boston trading Manny. If they did, Theo is smart enough to get value in return. I see the Dodgers making a very strong push for Delgado if the RJ trade goes down. I don't see the Mets making a push for Beltran. They may try but if he's going to NY, he'll go to the Yankees. They will always outspend everybody. The question is does he just merely want the most money. So then Houston and Chicago (if they trade Sosa) would be the front contenders.

But if the Yankees end up with Beltran AND Randy Johnson.. fawk.. you got to be kidding me. That's a good off-season.

Omar Minaya isn't bad though. Sure, they'll get somebody.


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ludawg23
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I don't see Boston trading Manny. If they did, Theo is smart enough to get value in return. I see the Dodgers making a very strong push for Delgado if the RJ trade goes down. I don't see the Mets making a push for Beltran. They may try but if he's going to NY, he'll go to the Yankees. They will always outspend everybody. The question is does he just merely want the most money. So then Houston and Chicago (if they trade Sosa) would be the front contenders.

But if the Yankees end up with Beltran AND Randy Johnson.. fawk.. you got to be kidding me. That's a good off-season.

Omar Minaya isn't bad though. Sure, they'll get somebody.


Rumor had it during the winter meetings, the redsox were very close to trading Manny to the Mets for Cliff Floyd. The Redsox would have then heavily pursued J.D Drew but Omar wanted an additional $12 million to eat up Manny's contract which Theo refused and immediately cut off ties.

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Shamez214
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quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
I don't see Boston trading Manny. If they did, Theo is smart enough to get value in return. I see the Dodgers making a very strong push for Delgado if the RJ trade goes down. I don't see the Mets making a push for Beltran. They may try but if he's going to NY, he'll go to the Yankees. They will always outspend everybody. The question is does he just merely want the most money. So then Houston and Chicago (if they trade Sosa) would be the front contenders.

But if the Yankees end up with Beltran AND Randy Johnson.. fawk.. you got to be kidding me. That's a good off-season.

Omar Minaya isn't bad though. Sure, they'll get somebody.


The Red Sox were going to trade Manny to the Mets. Ludawg just said that.

But if Beltran is going to come to NY, it doesn't mean it has to be the Yankees. He may not want to be just another superstar on the Yankees and he may want to be the superstar on the Mets. Also, the Yankees CAN'T continue to overspend on everyone, despite popular belief. They don't have an infinite amount of revenue. The Mets right now are going for it all (not that I like it, but now I have to start thinking like they are) and I could easily see them overpaying for Beltran. Something like 7/120... or something crazy like that. While I still think that Beltran will end up in either Houston or with the Yankees, don't count out Minaya.


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i wish it would just last forever.
and so, to feel like that?
i'd pay any price just to get that back.
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Dunno

The Yankees spending is NEARLY infinite. I don't think spending $$ on Beltran is a concern to the Yankees. I think it's more up to where Carlos wants to go. As long as the Yanks got RJ, I'm pretty happy to be honest anyway. I just don't foresee George Steinbrenner ever being outspent by the Mets. I just don't. He could as you say just want to go to the Mets for other reasons. Sure.

It'll be awhile before we know anyhow.

Hey, take Manny. Make Boston worse. Cool!!


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The Yankees spending is NEARLY infinite. I don't think spending $$ on Beltran is a concern to the Yankees. I think it's more up to where Carlos wants to go. As long as the Yanks got RJ, I'm pretty happy to be honest anyway. I just don't foresee George Steinbrenner ever being outspent by the Mets. I just don't. He could as you say just want to go to the Mets for other reasons. Sure.

It'll be awhile before we know anyhow.

Hey, take Manny. Make Boston worse. Cool!!


i cringe whenever the mets outfield has to make a play. i guess it's a natural reaction after having had roger cedeno in the outfield for a few years

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my chips are in for beltran now that RJ deal is almost inked...
As for the superstar statement mentioned above...wouldn't you think that playing around a bunch of good players distinguishes who a great player is? it's easy to stick out when you are playing around a bunch of mediocre players vs sticking out among a bunch of above par players. makes you look even more superb. this also applies to the reverse, if you aren't doing so good it makes you look like you can't compete on their level....

i said it before...thats what the yankees are about, they make avg players play better and great players look like MVPs. thats what you get from a core of veteran players who all have above par talent - jeter, bernie, a-rod, sheff, and now a decent rotation which I believe is going to be capped by RJ but moose offers that sage wisdom for the pen.


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Konijn
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i said it before...thats what the yankees are about, they make avg players play better and great players look like MVPs.


this has only been true in the recent past -- the mets, meanwhile,seem to have the opposite effect, with free agents coming here and disappearing or putting themselves on cruise control while collecting paychecks...

that's what happens when you shit on your farm system and depend on big names...

in other news, pedro has dropped his good luck charm -- i was looking forward to his clubhouse hijinks...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...2p-225837c.html


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Shamez214
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Starting this year, Seilg is going to be monitoring teams spending. He will take into account a teams payroll and all other expenses (luxury tax) and then take into account all revenue. If a team isn't making a certain % over what they are spending, then he will take action. I'm not saying the Yankees are close to that, but they dont have an infinite amount of revenue, contrary to popular belief.

Sal, I know what you mean. But Cammy took all my fears away last year. Dude is the real deal. And he just had surgery on his hand, so many his bat will pick up a little bit...

Brian, I see what you're saying. But Beltran isn't a superstar on the Yankees. He'd be getting paid like one, but he really isn't as good as people think he is. On the Mets, he'd be THE guy. He'd take over for Piazza as the face of the franchise. The marketing opportunities for him are endless with the Mets (and other non-Yankee teams). I still think he'll end up a Yankee, but I have faith that Omar will at least drive up how much the Yankees wind up paying for him. But the Mets need Beltran WAY more than the Yankees do. He, along with Pedro, would make us relevant again.


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i wish it would just last forever.
and so, to feel like that?
i'd pay any price just to get that back.
*

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