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Originally posted by First Strike I dont think so, If it was possible there would be others doing it with vinyl, im not saying a similar sound cant be acheived but there is something very destinctive about his scratching/effects sounds that can only be done on cdj's

The reason you have not seen it done with vinyl is because most turntablists would not be impressed by 30 second long backspins ran through an effects processor. Thats not their thing.

Regardless of this, what zabiela does has been done by other dance djs with vinyl. Dont you understand that what zabiela usually does is loop the "ahhh" sample, and run it through the trans effect, and then add wah, or zip, or something like that.

Thats it, its a scratch loop ran through an effects processor. Now there are loads of records that have the "ahhh" sample in a locked groove...this would be almost, if not the same as the loops he creates with the "ahhh" sample. Now whats stopping you from running this through the trans effect, and adding zip over it?

The main reason everybody is pointing out the locked groove vinyl is cuz you get people posting that they want to do what Zabiela does, but don't have the money to invest in CDJ's. What you need to do the basics is a locked groove vinyl, mixer w/ send & receives, and an efx box. The more $$ you invest in equipment, the less you are limited to.

People keep pointing out that you need a DJM-600 also. Why would you need that, just cuz Zabiela uses it, you now need it? Any mixer w/ send/receives will let you do it, some just better than others.

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Originally posted by onceler People keep pointing out that you need a DJM-600 also. Why would you need that, just cuz Zabiela uses it, you now need it? Any mixer w/ send/receives will let you do it, some just better than others.

when i mentioned the 600, i just did it because Zabiela generally does use it for some other tricks during his sets, just not that much in the video. however... neh, you wouldn't really need one much...

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Originally posted by Zild I'm very sorry to inform you but I have battle records with skipless scratch phrases containing same the scratch sample Zabiela was using in the video.

No one is saying the sample is not avaible on vinyl & it has been mentioned many times in this thread all ready , very sorry to inform you......

What are you sorry about? Any turntablist worth his salt can do what JZ does without the need for CDJs. I never said they can mix as well as JZ but everything he does can be done on turntables and wax.

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man this is great, did not think me posting that video would make everyone jump like little kids.

could anyone give me a junk.co.uk link to a record with a locked groove of "Aahhh"?

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For a lot of the stuff that Zabiela does you don't even need a send and recieve function. It does however become necessary if you are going to do 'real' scratching with the fader and you want to put an effect on it.

On a side note, what really cracks me up about this thread is that it's so obvious that a whole heap of you have actually never seen or hear Zabiela play.
What makes this even more ridiculous is that it's also clear that some of you have never come into contact with a CDJ-1000 MK2 either.

Take it or leave it but I'm telling you now that there are things that you will not be able to do with vinyl that you can do with a CDJ and visa versa.

Zabiela does not just cut and scratch and neither does a turntablist.

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sorry, but no, you can't do half the shit zabiela does with vinyl. he uses tiny loops loads, as well as hot cues (on that sdcard mentioned earlier) and quick returns, all of which are simply not possible with vinyl.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 For a lot of the stuff that Zabiela does you don't even need a send and recieve function. It does however become necessary if you are going to do 'real' scratching with the fader and you want to put an effect on it. On a side note, what really cracks me up about this thread is that it's so obvious that a whole heap of you have actually never seen or hear Zabiela play. What makes this even more ridiculous is that it's also clear that some of you have never come into contact with a CDJ-1000 MK2 either. Take it or leave it but I'm telling you now that there are things that you will not be able to do with vinyl that you can do with a CDJ and visa versa. Zabiela does not just cut and scratch and neither does a turntablist. Nem

Yeah, i saw zabiela when he came here to lima. the guy is nuts. really, i mean u can analyze and critisize all you want, but really he does that stuff so beautifully and seamlessly, i would love to see more of you try and do that.. track after track after track

its a fucking trip.

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