im sure diesel is cleaner burning for the atmosphere.

That still doesnt change my opinion that IT STINKS!!!

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 im sure diesel is cleaner burning for the atmosphere. That still doesnt change my opinion that IT STINKS!!!

That's the smell of victory, my friend.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 That's the smell of victory, my friend.

victory makes me cough LOL

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I think Hitler and Saddam both tried

I said a BETTER way :P But yeah, at least they tried.

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Originally posted by amb_ This is one piece of legislation that I would be inclined to support... In fact, I am going to call my MP's office right now and express that fact.

indeed.

I'm a car *freak* and I would support this legislation.

Once again, Jayx1 feels that people have a "right" to do whatever the fuck they want, including driving whatever car they want

guess what...there are a shitload of cars, in europe for example, that can't be sold here because they don't meet our crash safety ratings. So what's the difference between meeting crash safety or fuel economy guidelines?

there is NO reason that so many people need to be driving gas guzzling, fatality increasing SUVs when the only "off roading" they do is skid into a ditch in the winter because they feel invulnerable in their mostrosity of a vehicle

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Originally posted by MarkT So what's the difference between meeting crash safety or fuel economy guidelines?

I think there's a *slight* difference between a product that's dirty and a product that could potentially kill its owner.

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they both could kill the owner

fuck the government of canada. they're a bunch of theives.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I think there's a *slight* difference between a product that's dirty and a product that could potentially kill its owner.

ah, you know what I mean...why is that not considered government interference in our choices. Why can't I choose an AWD Ford Focus RS vs. the crap they give us here (I support the bumper guidelines...this is just an example).

the real, tangible consequences from this situation have less to do about the government "interfering in our right to choose our car" (as Jayx1 would say) than they do for car manufacturers who earn the bulk of their profit from their SUVs and luxery cars.

Ford LOSES money on every Focus sold in Canada (unless that's changed recently)...but profit margins on feature-laden luxery cars and SUVs are huge. So this type of decision would really affect the Canadian market and the car makers and dealerships.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Maybe people turn out as idiots because they're sheltered from the real world.

And Americans are idiots because they're ignorant of the real world.

Americans don't care what the lying hippies say about the environment, because it is their self proclaimed god given right as an American to drive the most unnecessary, gas guzzling, fastest, most deadly huge hunks of steal they can get their hands on.

Disclaimer: not all Americans are idiots.

Last edited by Surreal JRS on Jan-23-2005 at 13:30

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