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Originally posted by Lira No matter how violent or fanatic they are

I'm not trying to launch any personal attacks or directed at christianity, but Christianity has had a far more bloody history than any religion I can think of. Plus, ppls ignorance and misunderstanding of Islam is also quite annoying. I'm sick of hearing things like "Islam is an inherintly violent religion" or "Muslims are by their very nature barbarians" and things to that effect. Yes, it's true that currently the Muslim world has some seriousw problems. Every culture/religion/whatever has it's periods of decadance. So passing sweeping statements like "Islam is violent and intolerant" based on only cetain events and biased media coverage is pretty unfair. That's like attributing the decedance and the barbarism of the dark ages to christianity. (or the spanish inquisition or the spanish conquest of america)

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Originally posted by Lira You know what? A great influx of Muslims would be culturally benefical to Europe (in fact, this is true to almost every "cultural fusion"). The legacy left in countries like Portugal and Spain is sure impressive.

sure, but that time is over. the muslims are no longer making scientific and artistic discoveries as they once did. they'de rather wage a jihad against the perverted west.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: they'de rather wage a jihad against the perverted west.

you're talking about a very small extreme minority here. that's not what your average joe is like.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z you're talking about a very small extreme minority here. that's not what your average joe is like.

the average joe would tell you that non muslims are missing out and need to be submitted to Allah's word. The average Joe will tell you that you cannot be called an arab or "syrian" if you're not muslim and that you don't belong to that country...

how do I know that? because i was over there last month.

how dare you say that I was never in a muslim country, let alone two.

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Originally posted by malek how dare you say that I was never in a muslim country, let alone two.

Because you generalize quite a bit and claim that they're all uncivilized barbarians. I've been to several muslim countries too (and lived in one for a while) so i'm not talking out of my ass here. The average joe is not as you described.

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Originally posted by Lira Malaysia: 53% Muslim 17% Buddist 12% Confucianism and Taoism 7% Hindi, 7% Christian, Sikh and Animism 20% is quite a fair amount of followers, since Buddhism had never had supremacy in Malaysia (it lived along with Hinduism). Besides, Islam arrived there in the 14th century, so it's quite well established.

The Buddhists there are ethnic Chinese, who are now being persecuted by the Muslims. Many Chinese are leaving.

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Lira, there is a difference between what a culture has left, to the actual effects the Muslum culture is having over in Spain or Portugal. I will talk about Spain, hence Ive been there... the Muslims, are, I dont want to sound harsh, but jeez, are sort of messing, bringing the country down... Currently. There's all this problems in France as well. There this fusion that DOES NOT work like it does in the America's. Europe is an old continent where each culture and ppl must live with their own.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z you're talking about a very small extreme minority here. that's not what your average joe is like.

And that's the extreme minority that can be no longer a minority and spread easily..

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Originally posted by Lira I think this is true to most "old worlds" and "new worlds". Brazil also integrates immigrants quite easily

Then again, Brazil is probobly the only country in America as a whole that has so many muslims/Islam... there's a reason why Soap Operas such as "EL Clon" were done over there heh..

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today a friends co-worker, who is muslim, started talking about that there's so many girls in montreal, and not enough men for them. He was dead serious, he started saying that these women have to be married and that polygamy is a good thing and how islam has the right answers for that problem bla blabla...

he wasn't joking around and was really serious about that.

like who the fuck appointed you to solve this problem? is it really a problem you sick fuck?!

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf The Buddhists there are ethnic Chinese, who are now being persecuted by the Muslims. Many Chinese are leaving.

It's the other way around Shadow. But I guess facts dont' matter to you since you'd like to see all muslims and Islam wiped off the face of the earth.