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Originally posted by SurrJRS Okay fine. My laptop I bring to work IS mine, and I plug into the corporate LAN @ 100Mbps and watch those .torrents fly! Ontop of that, no monthly bandwidth caps. Oh, and I sometimes leave my laptop @ work over night so I can ssh/vnc to it and have everything downloaded and ready for me the following day...

wow, you have some 'laxed admins at your place

unless, you're the admin

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Originally posted by malek wow, you have some 'laxed admins at your place unless, you're the admin

It helps when you work for a Tier-1 backbone provider, and bandwidth is pretty much free.

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Originally posted by SurrJRS It helps when you work for a Tier-1 backbone provider, and bandwidth is pretty much free.

I guess so

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Originally posted by baystreetboi I give it a month or so tops before Sympatico has an equivalent restriction back in place. If they don't adopt it voluntarily, they will be forced to by the migration of Rogers users over to Bell that will begin clogging their network.

yep, that's pretty much a given... good ol' competition all over again.

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Originally posted by dEsidEL - lastly, based on what RJ said, I wonder how this will affect our willingness to tune into streaming audio. i know that i've accidentally left my winamp open overnight on an internet stream, heavens knows how much data that ended up consuming on the network ..

snap! I listen to DigitallyImported for like 24/7... that's just gay if I have to cut down now.

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict No. If both services were identical (ie in perfect competition) the scenario posed by baystreetboi would be correct, but I don't forsee Sympatico capping their ISP services in response to Rogers' move.

You wanna bet? $200 says they do it in the next 3-4 months.

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Originally posted by Sunquest bottom line, ive had too many problems with Rogers in my life i wont even get into it, ive switched to Sympatico (Which is CHEAPER and FASTER and UNLIMITED speed) about 5-6 months ago, and all i gotta say is to Rogers, they really STINK and those of you who havent switched to sympatico , better do it already, dont waste ur time with Rogers lets just say i can download at 315 k max speed, morning, night, afternoon, u name it, time isnt a factor (like Rogers) and upload is 80 k max for me, which im sure, none of u Rogers customers get, atleast i know i didnt get even close to that speed with Rogers

And I've had more problems with Sympatico in 3 months than I've had with Rogers in 5 years.

Btw, I download at 400-500K/s speeds most of the time, and upload at 100-140K/s on Rogers Extreme... so, there goes your theory down the drain... FLUSHED!

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Originally posted by maxtuh pretty sure they will offer it to you if you call in to cancel as normal customer, their retition team works wonders, just tell them your getting better from the competition.

Come again? What company should I say I'm working for, so that I can take advantage of that corporate rate. I am on a corporate plan for my cell phone, but I don't think they offer the same deal for the internet as well (at least for my company). Or, even better, can you call them up and ask them what's the code of that plan that you're on and pass it up to us

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I forget my userID and password, and I don't use the email address that was setup with my account, so I gotta call Rogers to find out

I don't know why they don't just charge money$ for the extra bandwidth usage.

Sure it would suck for anyone going over 60GB, but it's better then being cut off completely.

I'm only sticking with Rogers because I get the employee discount... and really you can't go wrong at 5Mbps shared with 4 computers.

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Originally posted by TDG I don't know why they don't just charge money$ for the extra bandwidth usage.

Because Ted Rogers aint that smart.

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there never gonna just "Cut Off" customers thats the worst business ive ever heard of, empty threats for sure, people will just spit on them and switch to bell

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Originally posted by Crazy Serb yep, that's pretty much a given... good ol' competition all over again. snap! I listen to DigitallyImported for like 24/7... that's just gay if I have to cut down now. You wanna bet? $200 says they do it in the next 3-4 months. And I've had more problems with Sympatico in 3 months than I've had with Rogers in 5 years. Btw, I download at 400-500K/s speeds most of the time, and upload at 100-140K/s on Rogers Extreme... so, there goes your theory down the drain... FLUSHED! Come again? What company should I say I'm working for, so that I can take advantage of that corporate rate. I am on a corporate plan for my cell phone, but I don't think they offer the same deal for the internet as well (at least for my company). Or, even better, can you call them up and ask them what's the code of that plan that you're on and pass it up to us

i would i work for amex(american express canada), but your required to show proof of employment, sorry about that,each company has diffrent plans, based on corporations. so you cant really argue your way out of that, but my suggestion it to not say so just tell them your getting a cheaper rate and faster speeds to change your plan over to another ISP.

sure here is the website, but each company has a diffrent username and password.

https://rbsweb.ca/orders

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Originally posted by Crazy Serb yep, that's pretty much a given... good ol' competition all over again. snap! I listen to DigitallyImported for like 24/7... that's just gay if I have to cut down now. You wanna bet? $200 says they do it in the next 3-4 months. And I've had more problems with Sympatico in 3 months than I've had with Rogers in 5 years. Btw, I download at 400-500K/s speeds most of the time, and upload at 100-140K/s on Rogers Extreme... so, there goes your theory down the drain... FLUSHED! Come again? What company should I say I'm working for, so that I can take advantage of that corporate rate. I am on a corporate plan for my cell phone, but I don't think they offer the same deal for the internet as well (at least for my company). Or, even better, can you call them up and ask them what's the code of that plan that you're on and pass it up to us

ummmm first of all, sympatico has ZERO problems, atleast with me, and ive had so many problems with rogers i wont even get into it, i can write a whole book on it

SECONDLY, ur ROGERS HIGH SPEED EXTREME costs two and half times MORE then my REGULAR high speed sympatico, (which i pay 35 a month) so dont u even try to compare our speeds, you pay a lot more, so ofcourse ur speed is a lot more, all i say is that ive never had so many problems in my life that i had with rogers, period

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Originally posted by baystreetboi The congestion issue aside, the problem is that bandwidth in the aggregate still costs Bell $$.

I hate to say this.. but you are wrong. Bell owns all it's own infrastructure and hence does not pay telco's for ISP services. The only increased costs due to increased usage would be with regards to adding infrastructure needed to carry the excess internet traffic. However, Bell's current infrastructure is sufficient to carry all of its DSL traffic with no congestion/slowdown.

IE: if Bell has backbone lines with capacity of 1TB/sec (hypothetical.. i have no clue what the real limit is) it costs them the same if they transfer 1GB/sec or 1TB/sec. There is no difference in costs according to the aggregate demand on the lines, unless that surpasses the physical limits of the capacity of the lines.

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Originally posted by dEsidEL what about added load on the main backbone itself ? would that warrant a cap by Bell ? btw. were u in Liverpool on December 9th, 2004 during a Liverpool FC vs. Olympiacos CFP Champions League match .. ??

Maybe if a large majority of internet users constantly maxed out their connections at any given point in time. But I hightly doubt it.

I wish i was at a champions league match! The only place i've been outside of N.America is Israel....

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