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Diginerd
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Stamford, CT, USA but from the UK

300-400 rounds huh?

Only one dead?

This stinks to high heaven no matter which way it gets sliced and diced:-

Basic questions:-

1. Did the Italians tell the Americans about the operation?

2. Did the chain of command pass this info down to the guys on the street?

3. Was the car speeding? Did it stop?

4. How is it all the occupants didn't die? If this was an assasination attempt it was botched royally..

5. Who would stand to gain from her being dead? Why?

6. how many shots were fires? from where?

I'm afraid I can't swallow that 300-400 rounds were fired at the car. It seams a little high if she's still alive... That car would be cheese, along with eveyone in it. So I'm inclined to doubt that tally for the shots (These are supposedly highly trained soldiers here, not star wars Imperial Stormtoopers with a miss rate bordering on the ludicrus).

Mind you it's not looking good for them. Unless it's proven that the car rushed the checkpoint (so close to the airport I'd imagine it was a fixed point, not mobile. Think about it.

Either they're assasins, and not very competant ones at that. Very unlikely IMHO.

They're trigger happy yobs.. Unlikely, but you never know.

Or the car indeed rushed the point, possibly due to a miscommunication (They thought the patrol knew).

What ever happens a man is dead (Odd how this gets us wound up, but this kind of shooting is a daily occurrance in Iraq).

It's going to be interesting watching the spin on this..

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hardcore trancer
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto,Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Terrorism was already there...



Ya Al Queda has always been there I forgot


Are you gonna start the whole Saddam was a evil dictator story?


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Fir3start3r
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Ya Al Queda has always been there I forgot


Are you gonna start the whole Saddam was a evil dictator story?


And I suppose you're going to come back with something really intelligent like:
- "...well the Americans put him there" or
- "...the Americans had it coming" or
- "...Bush is a moron anyways"

Like the guy (Saddam) was shitting roses or something...

There's no denying Saddam's legacy and network in this world.


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hardcore trancer
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto,Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r

Like the guy (Saddam) was shitting roses or something...

There's no denying Saddam's legacy and network in this world.



oh stfu already,admit the fact that situation in Iraq turned out to be alot worse then when Saddam was in control and the American invasion of Iraq was a disaster,and it is time for them to get the fuck out.

Yes I know they had a election but people are still getting blown up everyday and they are suffering,and dont tell me democracy is a slow process.How many more people have to die until then?





p.s. and Bush can shove his fuckin free world bullshit up his ass.

There will never be a free world as long as Bush is in charge.


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occrider
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
There will never be a free world as long as Bush is in charge.


I never knew how pathetic and ineffectual the world was ... hmmm reminds me of the UN.


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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

quote:
Originally posted by smokeape
HHAHHAAAAAAA!!!!!
Heard they laid 300-400 rounds into the Italians. That'll teach 'em to obey the speed limit at a check point.


[[[smoke]]]


that's the most disgusting comment i've heard in a while

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Registered: Jan 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
that's the most disgusting comment i've heard in a while



Meh what else can you expect from a redneck?


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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

300-400 rds. hit the car? whatever
http://www.repubblica.it/2003/e/gal...tosgrena/1.html
she's lying. she has an agenda.

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JM
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Diginerd
300-400 rounds huh?


so what you're telling me, they wasted 399 bullets?



only to think my taxpayer $$$ goes towards those wasted bullets.

if they were trained how to shoot, it would have taken only

1

bullet...



>JM<

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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto,Canada

quote:
Originally posted by JM
so what you're telling me, they wasted 399 bullets?



only to think my taxpayer $$$ goes towards those wasted bullets.

if they were trained how to shoot, it would have taken only

1

bullet...



>JM<




you are pathatic


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George Smiley
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: 9 Bywater Street, Chelsea, London

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
300-400 rds. hit the car? whatever
http://www.repubblica.it/2003/e/gal...tosgrena/1.html
she's lying. she has an agenda.

A few problems with that car...

1. Didn't the Americans say they took the engine out? (There are no bullet holes anywhere I can see in that car at all)

2. They were apparently driving a 4x4 (which altho could be that car, usually describes one of those big things divorced women drive)

quote:
It was arranged that an American colonel would be on hand at the airport when Ms Sgrena arrived for her flight back to Italy. By the time the team had rented a four-wheel drive it was already 5pm.


quote:
US: It approached a checkpoint near the airport at speed when soldiers fired on it to force it to stop as a "last resort"...

The soldiers used hand signals and bright lights and fired warning shots before hitting the car with shots


Like I said, where are the shots on that car that the Americans have told us are present?

http://news.independent.co.uk/world...sp?story=617569

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DrUg_Tit0
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Zagreb, Croatia

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Terrorism was already there...


Oh please, don't tell me you still think Saddam had WMDs and ties to Al Quaeda???


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