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wolverine16
Pilgrim Pete



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Geez. JUST SHUT UP!
All I hear day in day out for the past week since I returned from vacaiton is Schaibo this Schaibo that! Its driving me insane

Who in their rights minds gives a damn?!

This is nothing new (vegitable wanting to die). Everybody should just shut up and let whoever and whatever be. Its ridicilous, its 24/7 on all the news shows (interrupted of course by Michael Jackson's trial updates).

US News simply sucks. Its horrible, you wouldn't even know we are at war or that there are "other issues" in this world.

Sad, sad, sad.

*end viscious rant*


Yep, this should have never been an issue outside the family & courts. On a positive note, let's savor the bipartisan support we seem to have on this and pray that no semi-celebrities do anything suspicious in the near future and maybe we'll get a break after Jacko.


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MisterOpus1
Grumpy Old Fart



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

Wow, just wow:

quote:
The parents of Terri Schiavo have authorized a conservative direct-mailing firm to sell a list of their financial supporters, making it likely that thousands of strangers moved by her plight will receive a steady stream of solicitations from anti-abortion and conservative groups.

"These compassionate pro-lifers donated toward Bob Schindler's legal battle to keep Terri's estranged husband from removing the feeding tube from Terri," says a description of the list on the Web site of the firm, Response Unlimited, which is asking $150 a month for 6,000 names and $500 a month for 4,000 e-mail addresses of people who responded last month to an e-mail plea from Ms. Schiavo's father. "These individuals are passionate about the way they value human life, adamantly oppose euthanasia and are pro-life in every sense of the word!"

Privacy experts said the sale of the list was legal and even predictable, if ghoulish.

[...]

The message added: "We're asking you to give a donation to help with our activism efforts to save Terri's life. Battles cost money; resources cost money; media costs money; we could go on, but you get the picture."

Mr. Sheldon - whose father, the Rev. Lou Sheldon, founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, has also sent appeals urging support for Ms. Schiavo - apparently played a dual role as a partner in RightMarch.com, which is working with the anti-abortion activist Randall Terry, and as a broker for Response Unlimited. Mr. Sheldon did not respond to phone calls yesterday.

"I think it sounds a little unusual right now because of the situation where she is in the process of dying," said Richard Viguerie, another major conservative direct-mail operator. "If you came across this information six months or a year from now, I don't think you would give it too much thought."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/p...ner=rssuserland


Whatever credibility the Schindlers think they had is now going, going, GONE! And this only bolsters Michael Schiavo's case that the Schindlers were only after the malpractice settlement money that went to him and estranged their relationship with him.

Unbelievable. Keep associating yourself with these fools, fundie nutbags. It only hurts the party you voted for that much more...


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wolverine16
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago, USA

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Wow, just wow:



Whatever credibility the Schindlers think they had is now going, going, GONE! And this only bolsters Michael Schiavo's case that the Schindlers were only after the malpractice settlement money that went to him and estranged their relationship with him.

Unbelievable. Keep associating yourself with these fools, fundie nutbags. It only hurts the party you voted for that much more...


Fellow Daily Kos reader, eh? I really like the story posted there on the people kicked out of the taxpayer funded social security rally for having a bumper sticker on their car and the FBI actually admitted it

deomcracy


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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by wolverine16
Fellow Daily Kos reader, eh? I really like the story posted there on the people kicked out of the taxpayer funded social security rally for having a bumper sticker on their car and the FBI actually admitted it

deomcracy


Hehe, yeah I caught that story there and felt it was worthy of a new thread all on it's own.

The other story I posted here I caught over on Steve Soto's blog, The Left Coaster, but just noticed Kos had it up as well.


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MisterOpus1
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quote:
Originally posted by wolverine16
Source

Although it would be rather difficult to come back in this case as well if you look at the facts.


Just caught this snippet from your source:

quote:
Charles Ray DeLay died at 3:17 a.m., according to his death certificate, 27 days after plummeting down the hillside.

The family then turned to lawyers.

In 1990 the DeLays filed suit against Midcap Bearing Corporation of San Antonio and Lovejoy Inc. of Illinois, the distributor and maker of a coupling that they said failed and caused the tram to hurtle out of control down the steep bank.

The family's wrongful death lawsuit accused the companies of negligence and sought actual and punitive damages. Lawyers for the companies denied the allegations and countersued the surviving designer of the tram system, Jerry DeLay.

The case thrust Congressman DeLay into decidedly unfamiliar territory -- the list of plaintiffs on the front page of a civil complaint. He is an outspoken defender of business against what he calls the crippling effects of "predatory, self-serving litigation."

The DeLay family litigation sought unspecified compensation for, among other things, the dead father's "physical pain and suffering, mental anguish and trauma," and the mother's grief, sorrow and loss of companionship.

Their lawsuit also alleged violations of the Texas product liability law.

The DeLay case moved slowly through the Texas judicial system, accumulating more than 500 pages of motions, affidavits and disclosures over nearly three years. Among the affidavits was one filed by the congressman, but family members said he had little direct involvement in the lawsuit, leaving that to his attorney brother, Randall.

Rep. DeLay, who since has taken a leading role promoting congressional tort reform, wants to rein in trial lawyers to protect American business from what he calls "frivolous, parasitic lawsuits" that raise insurance premiums and "kill jobs."

In September, he expressed something less than warm sentiment for attorneys when he took the floor of the House to condemn trial lawyers who, he said, "get fat off the pain (of plaintiffs and off) the hard work (of defendants)."

Aides for DeLay defended his role as a plaintiff in the family lawsuit, saying he did not follow the legal case and was not aware of its final outcome.

The case was resolved in 1993 with payment of an undisclosed sum of about $250,000, according to sources familiar with an out of court settlement. DeLay signed over his share of any proceeds to his mother, said DeLay aides.

Three years later, DeLay cosponsored a bill specifically designed to override state laws on product liability such as the one cited in his family's lawsuit. The legislation provided sweeping exemptions for sellers of such products.

The 1996 bill was rejected by President Clinton.

In his veto message the president said he objected to the DeLay-backed measure because it "tilts against American families and would deprive them of the ability to recover fully when they are injured by a defective product."'


Contradict thyself much, Tom?

Oh, he sure isn't alone when it comes to Republicans being involved in malpractice suits, especially fundie wingnutters:

quote:
A Virginia jury last night awarded the wife of Sen. Rick Santorum $350,000 in damages after she charged in a lawsuit that a Virginia chiropracter's negligence caused her permanent back pain.
Deliberating more then six hours after a four-day trial in which Santorum, R-Pa., testified, the Fairfax County Circuit Court jury unanimously ruled for Karen Santorum. She had sought $500,000 against Dr. David Dolberg of Virginia, because of pain from his 1996 treatment of her.

"Mrs. Santorum has been vindicated," said her Pittsburgh attorney Heather Heidelbaugh. "She was injured permanently through the actions of a chiropractor who acted negligently."

Heidelbaugh, with the Pittsburgh law firm of Burns, White & Hickton, said Mrs. Santorum has "permanent back pain" and "permanent numbness" in one leg.

Throughout the trial, Santorum aides declined to provide details. Yesterday, they issued a brief statement from the senator saying: "The court proceedings are a personal family matter. I will not be offering any further public comments, other than that I am not a party to the suit. But I am fully supportive of my wife."

But Roll Call, a newspaper that covers Capitol Hill, reported that Santorum testified Monday that his wife might not be able to actively campaign for his re-election next year because of her pain. "She has always been intricately involved in my campaigns," he testified.

http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/19991211rick2.asp


So what the fuck is all this tort reform bullshit? Are they trying to save us from themselves or something? I'm so fucking sick of this Right Wing hypocritical bullshit! How the fuck can any of you Right Wingers here support such fucks like this?


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ogvh5150
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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Geez. JUST SHUT UP!
All I hear day in day out for the past week since I returned from vacaiton is Schaibo this Schaibo that! Its driving me insane

Who in their rights minds gives a damn?!


Not me.

Things like this come about for what is in store in the future.

Eugenics.

It's gonna be more practical than sliced bread.


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