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Originally posted by kr00t0n Hehehe, just realised that in all probability, if more 'innovative' trakcs started getting more commercial air, I bet the people who like to think themselves 'underground' would moan about it I love it when people get arsey when 'their' genre becomes popular, so funny how some people react ps. this post is a broad one, I don't mean anyone in specific

im sure i had some influence on you to post what you posted, at this time, and in this specific thread. if thats true, despite your post script, it has nothing to do with what i said. i wasnt trying to be "arsey" because i was some how offended by him not know anything about IDM or what it even is for that matter, my point was pretty clear (although VERY rought around the edges ) that it frustrates me that he thinks he is so sure of himself, but evidently knows shit all to be talking the way he is.

im sure i am, like most times, talking out of my ass on this one. and i understand that the post i made above was pretty seriously unneeded and immature. fresh prince, i apologize for what its worth. kr00ton, you get a thanks for (even unintentionally) making me aware of how fucking dumb a post i had. i dont have any reason to be angry either. carry on folks

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Originally posted by basd Don't like = don't listen. It's really not that hard.

its hard to resist getting frustrated about the supposed musical ignorance and stubbornness surrounding the typical ASOT fanboy

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Originally posted by twisted its hard to resist getting frustrated about the supposed musical ignorance and stubbornness surrounding the typical ASOT fanboy

i agree

About IDM, just tell me where does Armin/ASOT fit in there will ya ?
It's got totally nothing to do with the style of music he's playing.

You might aswell go start saying I don't know nothing about Mozart too, because it's true, I don't know anything about him and similar, and more important I don't care about it either.
I like trance, if you got a question about that, I'll answer you, but calling me ignorant for not listening to something you do and has nothing to do with topic btw. is your wrong not mine.

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Originally posted by twisted im sure i had some influence on you to post what you posted, at this time, and in this specific thread. if thats true, despite your post script, it has nothing to do with what i said. i wasnt trying to be "arsey" because i was some how offended by him not know anything about IDM or what it even is for that matter, my point was pretty clear (although VERY rought around the edges ) that it frustrates me that he thinks he is so sure of himself, but evidently knows shit all to be talking the way he is. im sure i am, like most times, talking out of my ass on this one. and i understand that the post i made above was pretty seriously unneeded and immature. fresh prince, i apologize for what its worth. kr00ton, you get a thanks for (even unintentionally) making me aware of how fucking dumb a post i had. i dont have any reason to be angry either. carry on folks

Honestly tho, it wasn't aimed at anyone, I just remember stuff like when ATRC first came out, and alot of people loved it, then after a few months of overplay, everyone started saying it was shit

I admit it's not the greatest track out, but its no where near shit (aka DJ Sammy - Heaven, Hampenberg - Ducktoy, etc)

I'd be pretty miffed if someone started saying an AMAZING track was shit just coz it became accessable to the public and got overplayed, popularity does not equate to the quality of a track.

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Christ, I didn't think this would turn into a spree of elitism.

No-one cares how long you've been listening to EDM or how underground your musical taste is.

Also, I wish people would stop saying stuff like "if you don't like, don't listen to it" and "maybe it's your musical taste that's changing".

1. The show has DEFINITELY changed.

2. I don't "dislike" the show, hell I have every fucking episode. I was voicing concern rather than contempt for it, and yeah if things don't get better then maybe I will go elsewhere and do this "easy" task of finding another better DJ.

I just think people should be more honest about stuff. If Armin plays a crap show, don't say you love it. Maybe he'll take note and make things better, because he CAN do better and has done in the past.

On the other hand, maybe ASOT 190 was just crap. I listened to some episodes from a few months ago and they were alright.

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Originally posted by Fresh Prince I like trance, if you got a question about that, I'll answer you, but calling me ignorant for not listening to something you do and has nothing to do with topic btw. is your wrong not mine.

Now that is what i call one damn fine comeback

I don't mind armin fans so much. But their main problem is that they only listen to Armin and only know the kind of stuff Armin plays. They clearly need to widen their musical horizon.
There is loads of amazing trance released which Armin never plays on his show. Its the same with commercial radiostations. The best music is never aired.
There is a life outside and beyond Armin.

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Originally posted by Luke Terry personally i prefer something with a bit more edge to it. armin has always been the softest of the big trance djs. he was amazing at global last year, fair play, but id much rather listen to ferry or pvd and their style of trance as it is a bit tougher

i agree. he was good in the first half of 2004.. i saw him a couple of times back then, and there was plenty of energy to be found in his sets. from the second half of 2004 uptil now his sets have watered down a lot.. and it's not just in his radio show, even live he's playing lots of fluff.

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Originally posted by Col Christ, I didn't think this would turn into a spree of elitism.

You do realize this is Tranceaddict.com you're posting on, right?