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Originally posted by George Smiley To be fair, Sein Fein are a little different in their ideologies aren't they? Remember the IRA were part of that 'militant socialist' movement that swept Europe during the 70s (along with the Palestinians) such as Baader Meinhoff (sp?) and the Red Hands from Italy, so you would expect Sein Fein to also be pretty left wing (altho I'm not naive enuf to believe that actually happens all the time as this kind of revolutionary socialism usually comes with authoritarian overtones) Still, I wouldn't compare Sein Fein with the BNP (altho it might be fun to see the BNP canvassing in hardcore Republican areas in Ulster! Oh I'm gonna dream tonight!!)

No im not comparing Sinn Fein to the BNP...just saying you never can tell what will happen as the pollitical and demographic landscape changes, and if enough xenophobia is stirred up in peoples minds especially as regards asylum seekers, Although the BNP seem to be doing moderatly well in your council elections?

The Bnp have lots of ties with loyalist paramilitaries in Northern Ireland for many years, so yeah i wouldnt recommend they start canvassing in Republican areas(or maybe i would.. )

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Seriously if i ever met anyone in the BNP of even voted BNP i would take a baseball bat to there kneecaps.

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Originally posted by Jackson Seriously if i ever met anyone in the BNP of even voted BNP i would take a baseball bat to there kneecaps.

I watched that BBC undercover documentary and apparently BNP types get the shit kicked out of em quite regularly by the anti-fash!

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Originally posted by denny_shibby 17 and the UK was being compared to some 3rd world countries. PBS.org Commanding Heights documentary. Maybe you should fucking go learn something you fucking tard. After her being pm gee back on world stage, huh coincidence I think not. The way it seems is that the books you read are Billy Learns to Pee or The Poopy Book Lol. Why don't you go fucking read an economics book? Since economics can't permeate your fucking brain. This is what I bet would happen if you ever decided to take me up on it, you would go and read the Commy Manifesto so you could claim that you read an econ book.

Am doing a presentation soon on Thatcher so doing a bit of research on her. For starters, Britain was going through recession as was most of Europe so i think at the time allot of Europe would have been having probs. Heard that 20,000 British ppl were made millionaires by her, didnt know 3rd world countries had that many millionaires lol?

Also someone said about Poll tax making Britain richer than USA? The poll tax was unfeasable. My mum and dad nearly lost the house because of that because my mum had no job (3 kids) and dad was a printer when money wasnt big in that industry yet they had to fork out £400 at the time. I dont think there would have been riots around country, especially London, if people just didnt want to cough up a bit more money.

I'll probably be voting Labour, but its more to do with voting them because i hate Conservative (Howard pisses me off with his opportunitism i.e. using a tragic event to win votes etc...) and Lib Dems, although i really like Charles Kennedy, just dont think they could hack it, so its Tony Blair for me

^^^ yeah Tone is a class act comapred to Charles but I think the reason Keneddy seems so boring is cos he speaks common sence.

One thing though Alec Samond (sp fest) the SNP guy is acually a quality caditate (cleaver boy roy). Just in a joke party, the lib dems only have one thing against them,and that is that they arn't going to have a majority atall. Which is a shit reason to not vote for them. They all seem switched on.

Anyway yay for booze.

Vote lib dem but say yes to nuclear.

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UK's Blair Faces Election Pressure Over Iraq War 1 hour, 41 minutes ago LONDON (Reuters) - Prime Minister Tony Blair will face calls on Monday to hold an inquiry into Britain's case for war in Iraq as his rivals try to keep the spotlight on his support for the U.S.-led invasion ahead of a May 5 election. AFP Photo AFP The opposition Liberal Democrat Party, which opposed the war, placed advertisements in several newspapers showing a smiling Blair beside President Bush under the headline "Never Again." "Britain's international reputation has been damaged by the way Tony Blair took us to war," the party's leader, Charles Kennedy, will say in a speech on Monday. "I call again today for a proper inquiry into how we went to war in Iraq." Iraq emerged as a central election issue for the first time during the campaign over the weekend, with the main opposition Conservative Party accusing Blair of lying over the war. Its leader Michael Howard said Blair had overstated the "sporadic and patchy" intelligence gathered by Britain's intelligence services on whether Iraq had banned weapons. "He has told lies to win elections," Howard told BBC television. "On the one thing on which he has taken a stand in the eight years he has been prime minister, which is taking us to war, he didn't even tell the truth on that." Blair has repeatedly defended his decision to support Bush's 2003 invasion of Iraq and has denied hyping the threat posed by former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. "I did what I honestly believe was the right thing to do," Blair told the Daily Mirror. "We know Saddam had WMDs (weapons of mass destruction) and we know we haven't found them. But he definitely had them because he used them against his own people." Most Britons opposed the war before it began and the failure to find any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq has eroded Blair's once sky-high public ratings. But newspaper opinion polls suggest voters view domestic issues, such as public services and the economy, as more important than Iraq. They forecast that Blair is on course to win a third straight election on May 5, albeit with a reduced majority compared to 1997 and 2001. A YouGov poll for Monday's Daily Telegraph put Blair's ruling Labour Party on 37 percent, unchanged from last week, and the Conservatives down one point on 33. The Liberal Democrats climbed two points to 24. A second poll, for the Daily Mirror and morning television show GMTV, put Labour down two on 39, the Conservatives static on 33 and the Liberal Democrats unchanged on 20. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...dc&sid=84439559

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One of these days Josh will actually comment on the newspaper articles he posts up here!!!

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Originally posted by Ian^ under that witch my nan also waited 4 years for an important leg operation, my brother needed tonsils and adonoids (sp) out and we moved house 3 times b4 it got done, 5 years later. They de-privatised the railways & fucked them up, made the rich richer & the poor very poor. think about getting a clue about the UK before preaching your bullshit to us

The railways were privatised around six years after Thatcher left office.

They were already fucked up, when the entire system was nationalised some years previously. They are no more fucked up now than they were then.

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Originally posted by denny_shibby 17 and the UK was being compared to some 3rd world countries. PBS.org Commanding Heights documentary. Maybe you should fucking go learn something you fucking tard. After her being pm gee back on world stage, huh coincidence I think not. The way it seems is that the books you read are Billy Learns to Pee or The Poopy Book Lol. Why don't you go fucking read an economics book? Since economics can't permeate your fucking brain. This is what I bet would happen if you ever decided to take me up on it, you would go and read the Commy Manifesto so you could claim that you read an econ book.

For the good of the British people I'm glad you are not from this country.

For the good of the American people I'm glad you're not old enough to vote.

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didn't he say de-privatised?

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Originally posted by Dervish didn't he say de-privatised?

Yes, but not sure why.

They were nationalised many years before Thather came to power (1948, labour government).

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Originally posted by Jackson On a side note i will probably vote Lib Dem...because i am a student. But i really want the NHS to get sorted...its really messed up. I was admitted to Hospital on Saturday night in excruciating pain. Stayed overnight, still in the same condition. So they dosed me up on Morphine and sent me home because they said its likely id catch something much worse (MRSA) if i stayed there....my parents were like...WTF! Labours ok....but like most Brits i've lost faith in Blair and i'd like to see us move away from the US and closer to Europe where we belong.

Slightly off topic, but I actually have a theory you might want to read up on. I have heard of a condition that results in great pain due to being poisioned by various metals. Have you considered that the chain around your neck in the photo might be causing your condition?

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Thought he ment nationalised but that happened way before her (1948 tanks again google).

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