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Originally posted by mmilo Haven't seen anyone mention Gangstarr yet.. Most of his stuff is pretty old though (late 80s early 90s). Some of his more recent stuff (Moment of Truth) is pretty good.

gangstarr aint one guy. dj premier and mc guru.
i didnt name em, because in my opinion they dont usually quite qualify as "intelligent" hiphop, i call it straight up real hiphop

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Originally posted by Zenchowdah man, how has jedi mind tricks not been mentioned?

because vinnie paz is a wack mc. i mean, i like some jmt tracks, but to call him intelligent is a huge overstatement.

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I can't even believe someone would have the gall to post this in a Trance forum. Fissipissi, I agree with you.

Go to www.rapmusic.com if you want some suggestions, but don't pollute our site with that filthy stuff.

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Originally posted by n0bben Music Discussion This is where you can talk about Trance, or any electronic music.

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Originally posted by fissipissi n0bben bastard listen, you dare insulting someone who is listening to electronic music( no i dont pull rap,hip-hop into the electronic genre) ) on a trance board? you can stick your fucking rap,hip-hop music right up your ass and piss off ...rap,hip-hop listeners are not welcome here !!!!!

You can dispense with the harsh language, but I totally agree with what you're saying. These hip-hop supporters haven't even been able to firmly establish it as a bonafide form of EDM, and then they have the temerity to talk about it in a trance forum.

I should ask everyone for their favorite Pop artist.

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Originally posted by Hydarnes You can dispense with the harsh language, but I totally agree with what you're saying. These hip-hop supporters haven't even been able to firmly establish it as a bonafide form of EDM, and then they have the temerity to talk about it in a trance forum. I should ask everyone for their favorite Pop artist.

you've been a member since breakfast. stfu

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Originally posted by Zenchowdah you've been a member since breakfast. stfu

another ignorant tit, horray

but what to expect from someone who wrote this:

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Originally posted by Hydarnes I agree! Satellite was breathtaking! And "Beautiful Together" is probably just as stellar. The song has everything you want in a trance tune, atmospheric feel, great vocals and excellent melody.

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Last edited by n0bben on Apr-12-2005 at 12:11

lol

-nice edit

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but what to expect from someone who wrote this:

ROFL, so says someone who likes hip-hop!

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Originally posted by Hydarnes ROFL, so says someone who likes hip-hop!

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My love is like first steps in this snow, baby, I follow you everywhere you go, baby. The pain as light has come to wake you But you will never realize That I inspire the dreams that guide you baby. I follow the winds that bring the cold, baby, I light a fire in your soul, baby. The lightest touch of feathers falling My love might be invisible But I inspire the dreams that guide you, baby You're a half a world away But in my mind I whisper every single word you say. And before you sleep at night You pray to me, your lucky star, your singing satellite. Your singing satellite You say a prayer You say a prayer

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rap,hip-hop just as music = garbage

rap,hip-hop fans = they have no clue about real music

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Originally posted by fissipissi rap,hip-hop just as music = garbage rap,hip-hop fans = they have no clue about real music

you know rap & hip hop fans, say the same about "techno"(IVD - Castles in the sky)?

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Originally posted by Hydarnes You can dispense with the harsh language, but I totally agree with what you're saying. These hip-hop supporters haven't even been able to firmly establish it as a bonafide form of EDM, and then they have the temerity to talk about it in a trance forum. I should ask everyone for their favorite Pop artist.

Last I checked, it was you who couldn't grasp the grand simplicity of fact that any music reliant upon an electronic means can constitute as electronic music. All the arguments you provided thusfar have been moot.

And pop is more of a concept than a defined genre of music, much in the same sense that Christian music is. Pop music can sound like anything, really. Mainstream trends during the past forty years have proven this well.

As for the intellect of hip-hop, there has been no such criteria given to determine whether or not one genre is more intellectual than another, most attempts to insinuate otherwise have been without credible argument. Saying that trance is more intellectually superior than another is pretty damn dumb as it is already; I mean, seriously, take that plug out of your ass and stop the pseudo-intellectual elitism. As a matter of fact, I'd be willing to place a heavy wager that hip-hop in general is far more intellectual than the crap being spewed forth as trance simply due to what seems to be that hip-hop artists (yes, this includes that top ten pop-hop stuff) are more technically proficient than your average trance producer and the fact that the genre tends to spawn a far more diverse sound in comparison to the formulaic Euro-anthems we've all been bombarded with over the past ten years.

Oh, and one more thing. Hydarnes, Hissiprissy, this may come as decent mind fuck to you guys - the first trance song (The KLF's 1988 Pure Trance Original Mix of their hit What Time Is Love), believe it or not, contained rap vocals on the main versions of the song.

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