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Originally posted by djskyhigh u rock for spreading the word. the 18+ are the 21+ of the future and we most definitely need you guys! any club would be silly to not realize the longterm value of somehow embracing that age group so that they could develop it.

Yeah! What Kristina said! While you guys are working out the politics, I'll just focus in on the fun. lol Peace.

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Originally posted by djskyhigh are u being sarcastic with me mister?

By no means am I sarcastic. Of course - I mean it!

I was introduced to Heaven by a fellow friend who has spun a few times there (Sharky). The first time I went I saw DJ Sammy (insert insults here) with a friend and it was a blast. Since then, I have taken about 6 new people that never have been to a club (except mexico) and everyone of them now likes electronica.

All of my friends nor I would have been able to see Sammy, Gielien, Thrillseekers, Blank and Jones, George Acosta if it was never 18+. I understand that there are immature people that are 18+, just like there are 21+. Myself have never taken drugs in my life, and it would be terrible to not have a club to go to Friday Nights.



This is a public apology for all stupid people that have ever been to Heaven and wish that Leon keep it 18+, if it means enforcing more rules or not.

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You know when it first turned 18+ all of us thought it was a very bad idea. but you know what? it turned out VERY well. The crowd was awesome. As long as heaven doesn't make the front page of Candykids.net or something it should be sweet.

Fuck that!!!!

I had to suffer until I was 21 and I think it's unfair that the 18-20 year olds don't have to. UNFAIR!!!!

They should have to suffer, too!

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Kristina you were great!

keep it 18!

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Originally posted by DaveT Fuck that!!!! I had to suffer until I was 21 and I think it's unfair that the 18-20 year olds don't have to. UNFAIR!!!! They should have to suffer, too!

Some of us are hookin up fake IDs...and travelling to Europe alot

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

damn...... kristina ive never seen u post so much on these boards i think you could have wrote the first TA autobiography.

but its good to hear that you guys had a packed house. and the ppl had a great time. unfortunatly i couldnt make it out, but i know you guys arent going anywhere. so ill have to venture out to LA sometime.

as for whoever said heaven needs to build on marketing, and branding of the club before getting bigger names out, you couldnt be anymore right. i mean we all go spend the big money on the big dj cause he was obviously branded right. markus schulz could be the latest piece of evidence to how good marketing and promotion could boost a name.

heaven returning to 21+ isnt a bad thing. i dont know any other club who has taken so many measures to making sure their following is acceptable to all their descisions. I dont know any other club that asks the general public for dj recomendations. or how the sound is. as far as the music will always draw a bad crowed i would have to disagree. if u have ever been to san diego clubs you can understand. the way they market and promote, draws a more upscale kind of crowed. granted half the crowed can care less who the dj is. but it still is a better market there then it is hear in that aspect, i hope that can show some that the music we listen to isnt just drug music.

but yes heaven is smart for going to 21+ cause it is very important that they build their name which is going strong right now, i mean u have clubs like spundae booking rank-1 and blank and jones. i think you have heaven to compliment for that. brand it and they will come. 18+ after 130 is the right way to do it. I know when i was underage i never had an opertunity like this to still see DJs.

Thanks Kristna for all the 411 and your responce.
Again I know this was the first night at a new venue and there are always kinks when that happens. It is just a mess. I also know that the kinks will be fixed.

As for the Dance Circles, Glowsticks and candy kids. It dosn't bother me that they where there. More power to them! Shoot if you ask nicely and have cool ass photons I will give you a light show However the dance circles do take up space...

Yes I also know what happens in the back of Spundae.. Why do you think I have my spot in the front other then being as close to the DJ as I can get Again it dosn't bother me. But if I catch people sitting down in the middle of the dance floor I ask them to stand-up it just takes too much space.

Trance at 145.... I will admit that is not my style. It is just too hard for Trance.. is it even Trance at the BPM???

Now with Avalon.. I know what goes on there and the type of peole that go.. why do you think I do not like that place. It is the Vibe I get from most of clubbers. Sure it is great when all my friends are there since we make our own vibe that I feed from... But when I am there with out friends.. I feel so out of place in a meat market.... ICK!

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You know what...

I actully like that Heaven is 18+. I remeber back in the days when I was forced to party at Stakeing rinks, bowling allays, All age massives to listen to music. And that sucked. I could never get a fake since they would never belive it! ( I have a hard time for people to belive my age now! LOL)
Heaven gives the 18+ people to see Dj's they might never get to see at these parties. Granted Massives bring in bigger tallent but with shorter sets. A 1.5- 2 hour dosn't do the big jocks justic imo...
It also introuces the "rave" crowd to the clubbing world and gives kids something to look foward too when they do turn 21.

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Originally posted by sweetcandy girl Trance at 145.... I will admit that is not my style. It is just too hard for Trance.. is it even Trance at the BPM???

Trance is usually between 138-141 BPM. 141 would be a teeny bit out there, but I think its still within reason to call it Trance.

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*FUCK...NO! Heaven should not return to 21+. I can't wait 3 years until I can start going to Heaven, or any other club! It's just not fair! There is NOWHERE ELSE even remotely close to where I live that is 18+ that brings some very great talent, or any talent at all!

*I was one of the friends that came along from SB with SVGmethod. It's sometimes a real bitch having to drive down there. Traffic is such a hassle, there are crazy ass drivers, but I do it because it's the only place around, and because I love club heaven!

*You don't want candy ravers? Dress code can take care of that. You want to get rid of drugs? Have tighter security. Want more space to dance? Get rid of those damn dance circles and glowsticks. It's not a rave, it's a fucking club! Kids acting immature? Kick their asses out to the curb!

One last note.

*How about we get rid of those 40+ asians. NO, IM NOT A RACIST AT ALL! But they were the ones that were really bugging me (NOT ALL, but MOST of them.) They have no shame or respect. The women swing their hair all over the place. The men have two girls that are probably half their age in their arms, and they're swaying back and forth bumping into every ten seconds. Don't say that GA brings that crowd, because they were there for all of the Arena headliners also.

ONCE AGAIN, i'm not saying it's ALL of them. It's like you saying that all of the 18+ are like that, which isn't true either! I'm 18 and have respect for the venue and people that want to have a good time.