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Originally posted by vrahnos you're a smart guy....tiesto sucks because he plays the same shit every time....

lol
No he doesn't..
Ferry and PvD play the same tracks like Tiesto.

I prefer PvD though.

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People please, we all know that back in 1999/2000 we were all kissingTiesto's butt.

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Originally posted by Nayil i dont wanna hear abt any opinions made by a person whod call ferry a trance killer.

well. it might very well be true that ferry killed trance. don't get me wrong here though. i'm a fan of some ferry stuff myself, i got all gouryella records for example. but thats not the point. i didnt buy them because i wanna go to trance, because, honestly, they DONT PUT ME in a state of trance. i just listen to them because i think they're nice piece of music, thats it. the trance made back in the days, before ferrys days, was mainly made for another reason, to actually put the listener into trance. it was more repetative and hypnotic. and you can hardly say that about todays formulatic, cliched stuff. you can still enjoy it ofcourse, but to call it trance is wrong. and you can't deny that ferry had a huge impact on the entire scene in the laste 90's, which lead to lots and lots of similar stuff being produced and eventually the "real" trance died out.

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Originally posted by n0bben which lead to lots and lots of similar stuff being produced and eventually the "real" trance died out.

so ur saying the real trance is no more present ? could u clear me on that

did you even read my post?

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Originally posted by n0bben did you even read my post?

LMAO....... goodnight dude

well, you're obviously a complete fucktard, so i didnt expect you to learn something in the first place.

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not from sumone who kisses ishkurs arse

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Originally posted by Nayil not from sumone who kisses ishkurs arse

i said he was 100% correct on THAT point. does that mean i agree on everything he sais? no. dammit, you're even dumber than i first thought.

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Originally posted by n0bben i said he was 100% correct on THAT point. does that mean i agree on everything he sais? no. dammit, you're even dumber than i first thought.

u nicely said ferry killed "the real" trance ....i dont give a flying f on what u think

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Originally posted by Nayil not from sumone who kisses ishkurs arse

wtf. So what if he has the same opinion as Ishkur? So what if they have the same opinion on EVERYTHING? It doesn't matter. Heck, I had alot of thoughts and opinions that matched with Ishkur's even before I came across his guide to EDM, and then when I found it I was like "hey, someone else has the same opinion as I".

And it's true, "real trance" is pretty much dead, much thanks to Tiesto and Ferry in the late 90s. Good or bad, that's up to you to decide. Fact is though, trance has become overly pussified and poppy, and I don't see anyone disproving that. Personally I prefer progressive trance from 96-00, I don't care much for classic/acid trance.

Neither FC nor Tiesto killed trance. If you want to blame someone for popularising big melodies blame Robert Miles and if you want to blame someone for making trance "mainstream"... blame Robert Miles. As for the monster breakdowns, DJ fucking Scot Project was raping them back when Ferry was best known as Moonman.

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Mixes:
> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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