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Originally posted by raveed personally i think Carvalho is better than Gallas, at centre back that is.From the Chelsea games i watched this season Carvalho played like a don and made one fantastic tackle after another. When hes in top form theres no passing this guy. However, not to many defenders have the ability to play as good in all positions like Gallas does and therefore, as Kytracid said - chelsea will do everything to ensure he stays.

Can't say I agree with you there. Carvalho's certainly not a bad defender, but he does seem to lunge into tackles and has been lucky on more then one occasion to get away with some of his mistimed tackles in the box. No doubt he has class, but i think he's still adjusting to the pace and physical demand of the EPL. In a season or two i might say he's the first choice CB...but as of next season, i'm almost sure you'll find him rotating that position with Gallas.

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Back to topic .... newcastle have been heavily linked with Owen of late. Itl be interesting to see if he wants to play for an Inter Toto cup team though although I expect the geordies to be a helluva lot better next season with Souness at the helm.

Please tell me you don't actually believe Souness is going to turn things around ? I dunno man...he doesn't seem like a coach who inspires confidence. The combative Scot seems to be more of a headcase then a coach. I doubt Owen will move to a team that's been slipping for the last few seasons, and i doubt Shearer will have much of an impact next year. Overall...I think Newcastle will find themselves at the wrong end of the table. Yet again.

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Ferdinand to madrid sounds like pure B.S . Rio owes it to united to stay after the faith we showed in him by sticking to him during his missed drugs test unlike chelsea who not only kiked mutu out but tried to press claim charges against him as well.

I agree. But then again, Rio comes across as a mercenary, not a loyal football player. Look at his track record. He's basically jumped ship at almost every chance he has got to up his pay. First from West Ham to Leeds. Then Leeds to Man U. The guys a greedy little ****, and although he's got a wealth of talent, the last few games have shown he's still immature when it comes to claiming the title of one of the best defenders in the world. I think Rio will stay a Red...but only after he's signed to make even more money per week, and that quite honestly just reeks coming from a man who should be doing everything to repay the club that showed support for him.

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Now that the relegation battle has been decided there a lot of good players in all three sides that went down that should generate interst from the bigger clubs namely the likes of Crouch, Quashie and Niemi from S'hampton , Johnson and Routledge from Palace and finally Ashton, Francis, Green and Huckerby fron Norwich. Ashton in particular seems like a star in the making and im sure a big club like newcastle, liverpool or Assanal gonna sign him.

Niemi to Aresnal or Man U
Johnson to Pool
Ashton to Charlton or some other mid tier team...
Routledge to Tottenham


Now that summers almost upon us, big teams will start their poaching season.

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Originally posted by Kytracid Gallas isn't leaving Chelsea anytime soon, and next season he'll be playing alongside Terry in the heart of the defense backfour.

it's so obvious that you don't know what the fuck your talking about, and yet you keep repeating the same thing.

the jokes on you buddy!
so quit talkin' shit.
Mourinho won the CL with Carvalho, and trusts/respects him like he does few others. in fact, if it wasn't for Carvalho and his awesome wotk at Porto over the last few years, Mourinho probably wouldn't be where he is today.

so he's not going to all of a sudden drop Ricardo to the bench in favour of Gallas who admitidly is a very solid and reliable player whose proven his versitlity. Gallas is a very solid player, but he's a notch below Carvalho when it comes to the CB position.

of course with all the games they play in a season, both Huth and Gallas would get time in the CB position to give Tery/Carvalho a break, but they wouldn't be cosidered the "starters".
now whether Gallas believes that getting more playing time is such an issue that he wants to switch clubs over it is a very personal decision for him.

Well, i'll have to disturb your intresting conversation with some "news".

Yakubu is pretty much agreed to move from Portsmouth to Middlesbrough, he will move for £6.5m. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headli...=333580&cc=5739)

Recing Santander's Yossi Benayoun is being chased by Deprotivo La Coruna, Porthsmouth and Tottenham...

FC Porto:
-> After the confirmation of Maniche and Costinha going to Dinamo Moscow, greek right back Giourkas Seitaridis is also said to be wanted by the russians, and the deal is rumoured to be announced wednesday.
-> Already confirmed are the bids for argentinian players Lucho Gonzalez (left winger/centre midfielder) and Lisandro Lopez (striker).
-> Boavista players Nelson and Diogo Valente, two of the biggest revelations in this years' league are linked with Porto as well. The first is seen as the replacement for Seitaridis, the second could be another option for the left wing since Porto have about none for that at the moment.
-> Sevilla has been interested in striker Luis Fabiano who has been completely disappointing this season, thanks to low confidence and bad luck especially the kidnapping of his mother.
-> Benni McCarthy has been rumoured to be wanted by José Mourinho in Chelsea. Personally i think this is complete bullshit - he's not talented enough, plus stupidly temperamental.
-> AZ Alkmaar manager Co Adriaanse is rumoured to be Porto's manager for next season. This would be the 4th manager after Mourinho left a year ago.
-> Finally Benfica's central defender Ricardo Rocha has been rumoured to move to Porto, as well as the croatian forward Tomislav Sokota who has been playing in the third division in Benfica's B team.

Also from the portuguese league:
-> Another huge revelation from this season, Braga's midfielder João Alves has been linked with Chelski! I wouldn't be too surprised with it but i don't think he's got what it takes to suceed at the top european level.
-> Benfica's manager Giovanni Trapattoni has said he may move to an italian Serie B club (?!) after the eventual league and portuguese cup titles.

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Originally posted by Kytracid Ever heard of competition for places ? The idea behind having 2 world class players for every position (which is what the Chelsea squad is based on) is so that players train hard to compete for places. The chelsea back four is not set in stone. Yes, Carrvaliho was bought for a heft price (but that's only because he was sold to Chelsea - he's not actually worth that much). Gallas will stay at Chelsea because next year he will be in the CB position with Terry. Carravalho will also be there, rotated into the squad as Chelsea will be competeting at all levels. Gallas has stated he will not play LB forever, but he's still done a good job at that position this season. Jose will keep him because he realizes just how versitile Gallas is.

Gallas wont accept a rotation position of 1 game in 5, or the carling cup matches. It isnt up to jose to keep him, he really doesnt have any say in the matter.

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Originally posted by Kytracid Gallas isn't leaving Chelsea anytime soon, and next season he'll be playing alongside Terry in the heart of the defense backfour. Oh...and your football sources suck !

no he wont, as Mercury has pointed out carrvaliho is his first choice. He bought him, he managed him at porto. He will show favourtism to him for those reasons.

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Originally posted by Mercury20 it's so obvious that you don't know what the fuck your talking about, and yet you keep repeating the same thing. the jokes on you buddy! so quit talkin' shit. Mourinho won the CL with Carvalho, and trusts/respects him like he does few others. in fact, if it wasn't for Carvalho and his awesome wotk at Porto over the last few years, Mourinho probably wouldn't be where he is today.

Dude, shut the fuck up. I can tell you're portugese so I know dick sucking probably comes natural to you, but please - stop making stupid statemets like "Carvalho and his awesome work at Porto made Mourinho the coach he is". Think about it for a few minutes and you'll realize how moronic you sound. One player having the season of his life doesn't suddenly turn a medicore coach into a winner. Jose has always been a good tactican, and that Porto side which won the CL had lots of other talented players.

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of course with all the games they play in a season, both Huth and Gallas would get time in the CB position to give Tery/Carvalho a break, but they wouldn't be cosidered the "starters". now whether Gallas believes that getting more playing time is such an issue that he wants to switch clubs over it is a very personal decision for him.

Ricardo hasn't had a great season in England. Just because Chelsea have won the league doesn't mean he's been a success in the back four. Terry has been miles above Ricardo, and there have been matches when Carvalho's last minute lunges and thuggery in the box have gone unnoticed by the officials. I'm not saying he's a bad player...but I believe Jose realizes that with Huth being so inexperienced (as was shown in that CL game against Bayern) he needs a versitle defender like Gallas. I'm not sure what Jose's first team lineup will look like, but i believe he will not sell Gallas, and will find a place for him in the squad that the player himself is comfortable with.

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Originally posted by Kytracid Dude, shut the fuck up. I can tell you're portugese so I know dick sucking probably comes natural to you, but please - stop making stupid statemets like "Carvalho and his awesome work at Porto made Mourinho the coach he is". Think about it for a few minutes and you'll realize how moronic you sound. One player having the season of his life doesn't suddenly turn a medicore coach into a winner. Jose has always been a good tactican, and that Porto side which won the CL had lots of other talented players. Ricardo hasn't had a great season in England. Just because Chelsea have won the league doesn't mean he's been a success in the back four. Terry has been miles above Ricardo, and there have been matches when Carvalho's last minute lunges and thuggery in the box have gone unnoticed by the officials. I'm not saying he's a bad player...but I believe Jose realizes that with Huth being so inexperienced (as was shown in that CL game against Bayern) he needs a versitle defender like Gallas. I'm not sure what Jose's first team lineup will look like, but i believe he will not sell Gallas, and will find a place for him in the squad that the player himself is comfortable with.

he can buy a defender better than carvalho with the money he has but gallas with his versatility is hard to replace ... he was always the first player id buy in championship manager

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Originally posted by Kytracid a lot more mindless drivel.

haha, dude you're certainly allowed to have your own opinions, but unfortunatly you can't have your own facts.

there's only one set of those, and sorry but you're missing the boat on this one.

i won't dignify your crap anymore by responding to it, but it is pretty funny though so by all means carry on.

i'm sure you'll continue to call me names and spin interesting stories for everyone to roll their eyes to. i would expect nothing less.
i guess we can all look back once next season starts and get confirmation as to which one of us was just talking out their ass.



wow, you must be a genius, with being able to tell what nationality i am and all.
maybe it's 'cuz of that little flag over there eh sparky?
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Originally posted by Mercury20 haha, dude you're certainly allowed to have your own opinions, but unfortunatly you can't have your own facts. there's only one set of those, and sorry but you're missing the boat on this one. i won't dignify your crap anymore by responding to it, but it is pretty funny though so by all means carry on. i'm sure you'll continue to call me names and spin interesting stories for everyone to roll their eyes to. i would expect nothing less. i guess we can all look back once next season starts and get confirmation as to which one of us was just talking out their ass. wow, you must be a genius, with being able to tell what nationality i am and all. maybe it's 'cuz of that little flag over there eh sparky? <---------

How am I missing the boat ? Are you Jose's girlfriend that you can state with absolute conviction that Gallas is being sold ? I mean, lets face it, we are all expressing an opinion here. But you're the one who came out and challenged my knowledge on the subject. So lets hear it...where are these so called facts you claim to have that Gallas is being sold ? Jose has stated he wants two international calibre players for EVERY position in the squad. Currently Chelski have Gallas, Terry, Carrvalho and Huth as CB. Huth has barely played 10-15 games this season and is clearly not yet experienced enough. That only leaves 3 seasoned players for 2 critical positions. If Jose is as smart as he thinks he is, allowing Gallas to leave will be a huge mistake as he's a proven defender at all levels of the game and has been a Chelsea player for over 5 seasons and so is established to the pace and rigor of EPL football.

Now genius...what do you have, besides the gossip mill to substantiate your claim that Gallas is leaving ? Yeah, he's unhappy at being used as a LB. But has he come out and asked for a transfer ? Pull the cock out of your ass and think about it for a second. Chelsea are champions, and probably one of the richest clubs in the world right now. If you think Gallas is leaving just because he doesn't want to play on the left side -- then you're even dumber then I thought.

His statement was a warning so that Jose doesn't keep him in that position forever. Ask any Chelsea supporter about Gallas and they will tell you that he is just as good as Carrvalho...i don't expect you to agree, what with that little green and red flag by your name. But that's the truth.

At this point determining where Jose will use Gallas next season is an exercise in conjecture. Nobody knows who will be brought in, and who will be shipped out. I'd be very suprised if Gallas is transfered simply because Chelsea need his versatility and experience in the back.

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Originally posted by Dj_GtR barca will be really hot next season....

Their defence is bollicks Chelsea tore them to shreds, have we not learnt anything for Real Madrid all the stars in the world r great but if u cant defend u wont win the Champions League!!!

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Originally posted by InterMilan31 paranoik- Trap to Roma if he does decide to come back to Italy.

well that wouldn't surprise me, he did say Serie B what about Parma?

About Carvalho, although i'm another biased guy, i believe he didn't start the season very well but ended the season playing quite good. He did have the season of his life in 03/04 with Porto but it could be said Mourinho is in part responsible for that, after all he has turned several players from average to above-average. In Porto: Ricardo Carvalho, Deco, Derlei, Paulo Ferreira, Nuno Valente. In Chelsea: Gudjhohnsen, Joe Cole.

About Gallas staying or leaving Chelsea, i've got no idea what so ever.

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