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Originally posted by Jayx1 Funny but i dont think that relationships are about taking advantage of someone else or being honoured by someone's presence. Its about enjoying each others company whether its over mcdonalds or cavier on the riviera. I wish most others thought this way.

I've never been taken advantage of nor do I set myself up for it.

Essentially, we are thinking along similar lines, however, you are getting caught up in words that you don't quite understand because you have never experienced them. Believe me, when you are in love with someone (real love) you will be honoured and privileged to be with them.
Being honoured to be with another person happens naturally when you hold someone in high esteem. If you do not hold them in high esteem then you have no business dating them in the first place. Ideally both parties will hold the other in high esteem and therefore will feel privliged to be with the other.

It is unfortunate that you don't have the capacity to understand what I'm saying here. With some more experience and maturity you will. Until then there is no point in continuing this because you cannot possibly understand.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Jayx1 i dont set myself up to be taken advantage of. When its a girl who i just met we go for coffee. Im not taking a complete stranger out for a $300 night just as i would hope that she wouldnt have sex with a total stranger. Same thing. If she doesnt offer to pay her share then it's over for her. If she does offer i usually decline and offer to pay. Its not about money its about having repsect for someone you dont know very well. Later on if the relationship progresses in a healthy way then it just balances itself out. And if it doesnt then you should be able to talk about it and work it out. Thats what mature people do. Funny but i dont think that relationships are about taking advantage of someone else or being honoured by someone's presence. Its about enjoying each others company whether its over mcdonalds or cavier on the riviera. I wish most others thought this way.

seriously, case closed, read my comments, and jays and you're set. i don't know what jays dating history is, but my relationship is 2yrs and going strong. (not to say if you don't have a long relationship you can't comment, becuase it can be difficult to find the person you actually want to spend lots of time with) its about respect for each other above anything else. the first month is always hard becuase there can be awkwardness in the 'who pays.' i think i had a huge advantage that we were friends 8months b4 dating, so that took lots of the awkwardness out.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I've never been taken advantage of nor do I set myself up for it. Essentially, we are thinking along similar lines, however, you are getting caught up in words that you don't quite understand because you have never experienced them. Believe me, when you are in love with someone (real love) you will be honoured and privileged to be with them. Being honoured to be with another person happens naturally when you hold someone in high esteem. If you do not hold them in high esteem then you have no business dating them in the first place. Ideally both parties will hold the other in high esteem and therefore will feel privliged to be with the other. It is unfortunate that you don't have the capacity to understand what I'm saying here. With some more experience and maturity you will. Until then there is no point in continuing this because you cannot possibly understand.

moral, i understand what you're saying (finally) lol...your comments were all over the place it wasn't making much sense. but it is an honour to be in the presence of your real love, and if that feeling is mutual between the two of you, then you know you have a good relationship.

i have had very successful relationships following the criteria that i have stated. In fact many times my friends are jealous because of how well they work out. Meanwhile i kind of feel sorry for them because they have the same subserviant attitude as demonstrated here. I call it Ray Romano syndrome. I find most of the time i find the women have been conditioned to walk all over men and men have been conditioned to let it happen. They dont even realize how whipped they are and get mad when you point it out and say things like "well if u had a real relationship you would know"...

I have had real relationships and i know that while it takes much longer to meet quality women the wait is usually worth it.

Having said that, no relationship is 100% successful until you actually grow old with and die with that person.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

Question: Who the hell is supposed to PAY when it is 2 guys who are GAY????

Now there is a question - I would like answered!!! LOL!!!

JAYX1????????

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IF YOU GOT TRANCE IN YOUR PANTS WHIP IT OUT!!! IF NOT JUST WHIP IT OUT ANYWAY!!!

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Originally posted by djbruuen moral, i understand what you're saying (finally) lol...your comments were all over the place it wasn't making much sense. but it is an honour to be in the presence of your real love, and if that feeling is mutual between the two of you, then you know you have a good relationship.

i understand what he is saying but he still equates money into it. A good relationship doesnt get caught up on stupid things like being honoured with each others presence and huge expensive presents. Its about being able to be yourself with that person and enjoy each others company.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by naesean3 Question: Who the hell is supposed to PAY when it is 2 guys who are GAY???? Now there is a question - I would like answered!!! LOL!!! JAYX1????????

who cares? LOL Hopefully i will never have that problem LOL

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by naesean3 Question: Who the hell is supposed to PAY when it is 2 guys who are GAY???? Now there is a question - I would like answered!!! LOL!!! JAYX1????????

guarenteed it won't be the higher maintence fruitcake. they're just like the diva's who are money grabbing whores...i don't know if its to much mtv i've been watching, or walking around downtown TO to much, but the 'women' in the gay guy relationship is just as bad as a hootchie lol

edit: anyways, its been fun boyzzzz...but now i got work ta do, so my dating adivce is done.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 who cares? LOL Hopefully i will never have that problem LOL

an "unintelligent" answer from JAYX1 finally I have proof!!!!

Thanks dude! that comment was rude!!!

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Originally posted by naesean3 an "unintelligent" answer from JAYX1 finally I have proof!!!! Thanks dude! that comment was rude!!!

No.... im just stating my dislike for dating men...

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 No.... im just stating my dislike for dating men...

but you didn't answer the question....you always have an answer....so........

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IF YOU GOT TRANCE IN YOUR PANTS WHIP IT OUT!!! IF NOT JUST WHIP IT OUT ANYWAY!!!

that was my answer

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill