Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
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Originally posted by RobbyG.
What we need is a belevolent dictator
We already have one... whomever leads the liberal party is king and can do no wrong.
The emperor has no clothes but it doesnt matter when the serfs are blind.
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Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill
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May-17-2005 04:25
rabbitjoker
aural sadist
Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA
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Originally posted by Jayx1
We already know that the Liberals are extremely corrupt
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May-17-2005 04:53
ShadoWolf
ISOS
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance
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Originally posted by rabbitjoker
The Bombardier deal is a great example of this.
when the old PC's chose Montreal and Bombardier in the infamous 1986 CF-18 deal, the West responded with Reform, and the PC's were decimated
now that the Lieberals have done almost the same thing to Ontario, how will Ontario respond? Will they be punished at all? How many Torontonians even know what happened in this case???
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May-17-2005 05:18
malek
drinks your milkshake!
Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal
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Originally posted by rabbitjoker
The Bombardier deal is a great example of this.
and that 1B$ fund for the auto industry is another great example.
Originally posted by malek
and that 1B$ fund for the auto industry is another great example.
which the Ontario government pays a big chunk of (half I think)...
...but yeah, the CPC (rightly) wants to eliminate corporate welfare
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May-17-2005 05:40
malek
drinks your milkshake!
Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal
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Originally posted by ShadoWolf
when the old PC's chose Montreal and Bombardier in the infamous 1986 CF-18 deal, the West responded with Reform, and the PC's were decimated
now that the Lieberals have done almost the same thing to Ontario, how will Ontario respond? Will they be punished at all? How many Torontonians even know what happened in this case???
the PC chose Bombardier because its ownership was Canadian, the firm based in Winnipeg wasn't.
It makes sense to favor Canadian firms when possible in defense matters.
If you think that the CPC would not have done the same thing for Bombardier you're plain wrong or they would be super crazy. (actually they promised to keep Bombardier's deal intact if they're elected).
Every major plane builder in the world have recieved massive public investments for RnD.
Just think about Airbus, Boeing and Embraer.
Why would we let down our only plane builder?
Those jobs created aren't minimum wage either, its high tech, its well paid and its a big plus for the country!
hardly a foreign firm... the other countries involved in the company are also part of NATO, so we share miiltary systems anyway!
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But hey, hicks in the west don't get it.
probably lost in translation.... we don't speak Ribbit 'round here
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May-17-2005 05:55
ShadoWolf
ISOS
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance
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Originally posted by malek
If you think that the CPC would not have done the same thing for Bombardier you're plain wrong or they would be super crazy. (actually they promised to keep Bombardier's deal intact if they're elected).
Every major plane builder in the world have recieved massive public investments for RnD.
Just think about Airbus, Boeing and Embraer.
Why would we let down our only plane builder?
Those jobs created aren't minimum wage either, its high tech, its well paid and its a big plus for the country!
I would empathize, except that Bombardier has always HEAVILY supported the Lieberals with donations (in the millions).... and that party is flushing this country down the toilet.
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May-17-2005 05:57
malek
drinks your milkshake!
Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal
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Originally posted by ShadoWolf
I would empathize, except that Bombardier has always HEAVILY supported the Lieberals with donations (in the millions).... and that party is flushing this country down the toilet.
nonesense... you're telling me that Bombardier didn't support the CPC after getting those contracts???
did you just shoot yourself in the foot?
we both know that firms support whichever party is in power, no matter who it is.
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May-17-2005 06:10
ShadoWolf
ISOS
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance
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Originally posted by malek
nonesense... you're telling me that Bombardier didn't support the CPC after getting those contracts???
did you just shoot yourself in the foot?
I don't deny that they gave money to the old PC Party...but that's my point - the PC Party was wiped out (in part to losing the West)
also, the amount given to the old PC Party pales in comparison to the amount given to the Lieberals
the CPC never received any money from Bombardier
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we both know that firms support whichever party is in power, no matter who it is.
well election financing laws have changed radically since then.. limits on corporate donations, etc.
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Bristol is British owned, check wikipedia
...this is British North America
anyway, it's no longer British-owned... and even when it was, it seems to have been an independant division
and like I said, all NATO coutries share military systems with each other... ironically, all except France
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