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Mr. Furious
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Flying by the seat of my pants

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Totally not comparable.
Explain to me what drugs are to an after hours, and then see if the same applies to hip hop and violence.

go on...try.


Electronic music often contains lyrics about drugs.

Rap music often contains lyrics about violence.

Match. Set. Point.


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Old Post Jun-10-2005 19:04  Canada
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jon jon
viva la clubland



Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Footwork

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper


Who did you date? Ghostface Killah!!?!

bahah Hip Hop, you used to be so clever and fresh, now you make me laugh. CHUCKLE CHUCKLE


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TrickDaddE
aka Mr. Mulder



Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Totally not comparable.
Explain to me what drugs are to an after hours, and then see if the same applies to hip hop and violence.

go on...try.


All I know is I would not want to bump into anyone or look at anyones girl the wrong way at a hip-hop event, Like I could at and EDM event.


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Mr. Furious
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Flying by the seat of my pants

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
because no one goes to system on Fridays and Saturdays anymore.


I've never heard of an incident of violence since the beginning of Breathe Friday's, or in the history of Bang Saturdays.


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TrickDaddE
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
because no one goes to system on Fridays and Saturdays anymore.

Since when???
It's been busy everytime I been there! And not just for Bitchress, sorry Mistress Barbara neither! LOL

And I will be tonight guaranteed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Booyaa


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PartyHarlequin
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Thornhill REPRESENT!

quote:
Originally posted by AwakenedAddict
You guys can't seriously blame hip-hop (or rap, w/e) for the actions of these people. Hip hop is a style of music, like rock, jazz, folk, pop, EDM, etc; like all other musical genres, is a fusion of lyrical and instrumental components. It is unfair to associate hip hop with violence as there are many artists in this genre who produce and create intelligent, aware music that has the potential to educate listeners (ie: Common, Mos Def, Black Eyed Peas, and too many others to list here).

In my opinion, the problem lies both in the individual artists and the public who creates demand for such artists. Whether such artists do it for the money, or actually believe the images they portray, is irrelevant. Such artists tarnish the hip hop scene and give it a bad reputation... too bad they are in the majority these days.

Back in the day, violent messages in hip hop were an expression of the conditions facing black, inner-city residents. In such a climate, violetn hip hop lyrics were accepted because they embodied the frustration and repression of a group of people.. however, now that hip hop has been popularized, there is no need for violent messages in hip hop.



Kudos, I listen to a variety of music from Classical through to hip-hop/rap and especially including EDM. IMO if you want to bash a music genre for ruining peoples lives target Emo and any of the other whiny trash punk, industrial garbage that floats around. Metal doesn't get thrown in with industrial cuz for the most part the music is just angry energy as opposed to complaining and whining. I hate any type of music that complains about the world. I don't mind music that gives examples of fixing it mind you (EDM and Hip Hop both feature this). And ya every now and then I don't care how degrading hip hop is, I like a little bit o' Biggies Big Booty Hos

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Mr. Furious
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quote:
Originally posted by PartyHarlequin
Kudos, I listen to a variety of music from Classical through to hip-hop/rap and especially including EDM. IMO if you want to bash a music genre for ruining peoples lives target Emo and any of the other whiny trash punk, industrial garbage that floats around. Metal doesn't get thrown in with industrial cuz for the most part the music is just angry energy as opposed to complaining and whining. I hate any type of music that complains about the world. I don't mind music that gives examples of fixing it mind you (EDM and Hip Hop both feature this). And ya every now and then I don't care how degrading hip hop is, I like a little bit o' Biggies Big Booty Hos

Peace!


Emo = causes people to kill themselves
Hip Hop = causes people to kill each other


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ChemEnhanced
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Milton, ON Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Hip hop music doesnt cause violence as i said...but it sure does attract those who commit it.


Agreed.....the people who commit the violent acts are not born that way but it is the image of the artists and the lyrics that bring out the violence....The "Gangster Rapper" attitude and style makes people think they have to be violent....all their friends are like that and therefore they feel they need to be.


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Skipper
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Registered: May 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by TrickDaddE
All I know is I would not want to bump into anyone or look at anyones girl the wrong way at a hip-hop event, Like I could at and EDM event.


Violence happens whether there is electronic music or not.
The fact that drugs are so prevalent within our scene makes going out to after hours just as risky, whether you acknowledge that or not.

Every time I go out, there's always one person who is so fucked up they don't know what they're doing. Does it make you comfortable to think you're sharing a space with someone so out of control?

Further, the side-dealings of many after hours in this city means there are a lot of people who can and do pass through a club on a given night that are not there for the same reasons you are.

Totally different risks, but equally risky.

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Skipper
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Furious
I've never heard of an incident of violence since the beginning of Breathe Friday's, or in the history of Bang Saturdays.


Me neither.
Although I have seen fights that get escorted out like this one did - if you count that.

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jon jon
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Footwork

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Every time I go out, there's always one person who is so fucked up they don't know what they're doing.


said person is usually from this board. BAHAH


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Skipper
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Furious
Electronic music often contains lyrics about drugs.

Rap music often contains lyrics about violence.

Match. Set. Point.


Sorry, I thought you were making a much bigger comparison that just lyrics.

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