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NYCTrancefan
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quote:
Originally posted by TheNobleEu
No, it really isn't -- I think you're still missing the point:

The EU regulations are five times as stringent as the US's; the laws that shackle the US in the EU, simply not being present in the States, gives the EU free reign to dominate the US market while the US cannot do the same in the EU.

The EU can and already has slapped the US with billions in fines and corporate loses.

This is why I chuckled at the notion that 'the EU has to observe US antitrust equally,' quite true in theory, a farsical notion in practice. That's like going from the MLB to the minor A and then asserting one can compare the two on equal footing.

The USA simply doesn't possess the political will (re: state of and political influence of corporate enviroments) to "catch up" with EU antitrust law.


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Noble you are drawing a lot of analogous comparisons in your attempts to argue. First off what is your representation of the US companies being shackled in the EU, Microsoft? There goes their bank account. I have seen only this case that even delves into the relm of anti-trust and fines coming from the EU for a US company. Microsoft remove WMP, give the competition better access to your underlying technology, which ammounted to the same case Microsoft faced here in the US. Careful in painting too broad a stroke with one brush.

Why would the US even want to catch up with EU anti-trust law. Capitalism baby is the US way, don't have to tell you that.The U.S. has been at this anti-trust thing for a while you know, like since the 1900's thus the forerunners of it as a matter of fact. In fact many in the EU, Germany for example are worried about the US businesses buying up failing German companies and downsizing or relocating within or out of the country. Unlike Europe that insists on trying to keep afloat companies that are uncompetitive and having to pay the enormous social benefits, U.S companies don't even bother with that.

So while the EU regulates the fertilizer you use, the amount of toothpaste in your tube and whatever else from Brussels and Nice, the U.S. businesses carry on.


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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
EU 'anti-trust' law (but I'd say the commission really) is one of the most farsical, corrupt, purely anti-anything-European, despicable, money-grubbing institutions I have ever encountered.

But thats just me


That wouldn't be surprising since a lot of Socialist countries are involved...

I'd have to say that the U.S. better built for flourishing businesses.


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quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
and the bad things is?


Yes when done based on speculation, corruption, and bribery.

When decissions are maded based on those factors - you're not a winner, you're a loser.


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Yes when done based on speculation, corruption, and bribery.

When decissions are maded based on those factors - you're not a winner, you're a loser.


and what proof do you have of this?

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quote:
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and what proof do you have of this?


Go investigated the above stated cases. Look into how the commission is selected, who they invite for interview, which companies they meet with, and to who the commission is accountable.

All my 'proof' is heresay, but I believe their word over an unaccountable commission.


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St_Andrew
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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Go investigated the above stated cases. Look into how the commission is selected, who they invite for interview, which companies they meet with, and to who the commission is accountable.

All my 'proof' is heresay, but I believe their word over an unaccountable commission.


They are selected by the memberstates, approved by the european parliament. So unlike your member of the administration they dont have to rely heavily on corporate contributions.

I havent followed every one of their anti trust cases closely, but the ones i have followed somewhat closely i must say that they rather did too litle than too much...

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Yoepus
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quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
They are selected by the memberstates, approved by the european parliament. So unlike your member of the administration they dont have to rely heavily on corporate contributions.


Right, so you are saying they are politicians not bureaucrates and therefore less corrupt. wait, wait, bah I can't hold it...

quote:

I havent followed every one of their anti trust cases closely, but the ones i have followed somewhat closely i must say that they rather did too litle than too much...


Can you cite an example?


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Here some sources for you on the EU decission on the GE/Honeywell merger (approved both by USA and Canadian anti-trust commissions and completely rejected by EU):

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/jun2001/gec-j21.shtml (note the name of this source too!)

http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/shapiro/divergence.pdf <- Paper explaining the differences in 'opinion'.


Economist take on the Commission:
"Will the real Mario Monti please stand up?"
http://www.economist.com/printediti...tory_ID=1177401

To which the answer three year later seems to be "No he will not".


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