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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle well do u think people are just doing it coz they cant be bothered to beatmatch? if so you are oh so wrong.

no thats not it, i just havent yet seen the big advantage

il re-phrase that before someone else does.

i havent seen the big advatage being *used*

id rather see a dj interacting with a crowd than hear him using 8 samples at once, just personal preferance

look at eddie halliwell for example, one of the main reasons hes so big is because hes very energetic bouncin around the dj booth, and he interacts with the crowd a lot, he wouldnt have time to do that if he was pissing about with a load of editing on ableton

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Originally posted by Rob H no thats not it, i just havent yet seen the big advantage il re-phrase that before someone else does. i havent seen the big advatage being *used* id rather see a dj interacting with a crowd than hear him using 8 samples at once, just personal preferance look at eddie halliwell for example, one of the main reasons hes so big is because hes very energetic bouncin around the dj booth, and he interacts with the crowd a lot, he wouldnt have time to do that if he was pissing about with a load of editing on ableton

So you would rather have the DJ play shit tunes and jump up and down having fun, trainwrecking because he is not paying attention...than someone playing six tracks at the same time and making mixes so flawless you forget where you are, where you were, and where you are going.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

I love Ableton. Conform or die.

For the purest out there:
It's not about how you do it but what the end result is/how it sounds.

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Originally posted by callme I've always meant to ask this....who the fuck are you? I mean i have never heard of you or the 5 friends you have on your myspace. Official info : chokeonit

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Originally posted by Demoted Just one more thing... it's Abelton... not Ableton... for some reason that was annoying me.

so then tell these guys that http://www.ableton.com/


ur cool!

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Originally posted by callme I've always meant to ask this....who the fuck are you? I mean i have never heard of you or the 5 friends you have on your myspace. Official info : chokeonit

"It's about whats coming out of the fucking speakers." - Sasha

and I agree. Trance kiddies, shut up, do you even know who Richie Hawtin is? Abelton is simply another tool for making music, don't be so closed minded (you don't like it when people are close minded about dance music, now do you?)

Oh and I saw Sasha less than a week ago and he seemed to be interacting with the crowd just fine. The only difference was that he was doing 1000x more with Abelton than he ever could with conventional gear.

Read up and shut up, cuz Abelton is hear to stay.

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Originally posted by Max Thomson "It's about whats coming out of the fucking speakers." - Sasha and I agree. Trance kiddies, shut up, do you even know who Richie Hawtin is? Abelton is simply another tool for making music, don't be so closed minded (you don't like it when people are close minded about dance music, now do you?) Oh and I saw Sasha less than a week ago and he seemed to be interacting with the crowd just fine. The only difference was that he was doing 1000x more with Abelton than he ever could with conventional gear. Read up and shut up, cuz Abelton is hear to stay.

my sentiments exactly.. 6 months from now lots of people around here will be jamming to minimal, acid, and tech house....mark these words.

and come late july when version 5 comes with the mp3 capability everyone will have a mix going around...

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Last edited by bobba lou on Jun-20-2005 at 06:11

anyone against any new dj tool is just backward and afraid of technology. it doesn't matter what format djs are using to present the material, it's about what they are putting together and what it sounds like. to the ableton snobs, it also doesn't matter if djs aren't using the program to the fullest! sasha was always amazing on decks and he's been ridiculously good on ableton. i'm sure ableton is complex and he's not using every possible function or loading a thousand samples but it is obvious what he is able to do, he is reformatting all the music and mixing elements of it fluidly while programming his own beats over the tracks on the spot making it sound different and unpredictable. he is also playing music that just wouldn't mix together with conventional gear in key and merging it in one fluid piece together. it has diversified his sets, created unique moments with the same songs sounding completely different at the gigs i've seen him do it. what he's doing right now is so much more than what he did before.... and it's not like he's going to use the software any less with time. it's going to get better than this... it is the future certainly, and i'm sure other technology will come our way with time as well. not a bad thing, and it's not losing that much from a dj performance.... who cares if there are no records or discs involved, in the end all mixing and effects usage is done mostly on a mixer, and a controller is basically that with some advanced midi functions.

What I'd like to see is the same kind of concept applied on a piece of hardware where you could twist knobs and buttons rather than using your mouse and a laptop. This could allow the flexibility of ableton without taking away from the DJ's interaction with the crowd. Add something else to the typical decks & mixer setup.

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Originally posted by bobba lou my sentiments exactly.. 6 months from now lots of people around here will be jamming to minimal, acid, and tech house....mark these words. and come late july when version 5 comes with the mp3 capability everyone will have a mix going around...

I think this prediction will come true

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Originally posted by Aquarian What I'd like to see is the same kind of concept applied on a piece of hardware where you could twist knobs and buttons rather than using your mouse and a laptop. This could allow the flexibility of ableton without taking away from the DJ's interaction with the crowd. Add something else to the typical decks & mixer setup.

There are hardware controllers for Ableton available.. Or isn't that what you mean (because I'm pretty sure you were aware of that)?

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Originally posted by Aquarian What I'd like to see is the same kind of concept applied on a piece of hardware where you could twist knobs and buttons rather than using your mouse and a laptop. This could allow the flexibility of ableton without taking away from the DJ's interaction with the crowd. Add something else to the typical decks & mixer setup.

I give you the Maven...




Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sasha sets up everything through Ableton and controls the output through Maven.