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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan I was thinking the same thing but then I realize I'm better than that. If this attack had happened in Paris, Berlin, heck Brussels I would have still been pissed off because I know the people who do this were sitting somewhere celebrating in a free and democratic society, whose ideals they exploited to murder others.

Right, I don't think there is a better term to describe these people then simply savages.
They exploit the fundamental concensus free societies have made to run governments and lives in peace and respect to push a political agenda. Pathetic.

Giving these terrorist any justifcation for their grievance would be equivlant to justifying a guy who kills 100 people in Spain because they were about to allow gay marriage and he disagrees with the state of Spain and the voters who elected their new president who allowed this law to pass. You'd never hear that, why hear it about islamo-facism?

How can anybody be an apologist for this????


What happened in London is just a sad waste of life. What did they expect to achieve? To move one of the greatest nations this earth has ever seen by harrasing its citizen in one of the most pathetic attacks witnessed? A nation that withstood WWI, WWII, and the IRA, is going to be moved by this??

Come on.

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Originally posted by Yoepus Right, I don't think there is a better term to describe these people then simply savages. They exploit the fundamental concensus free societies have made to run governments and lives in peace and respect to push a political agenda. Pathetic. Giving these terrorist any justifcation for their grievance would be equivlant to justifying a guy who kills 100 people in Spain because they were about to allow gay marriage and he disagrees with the state of Spain and the voters who elected their new president who allowed this law to pass. You'd never hear that, why hear it about islamo-facism? How can anybody be an apologist for this???? What happened in London is just a sad waste of life. What did they expect to achieve? To move one of the greatest nations this earth has ever seen by harrasing its citizen in one of the most pathetic attacks witnessed? A nation that withstood WWI, WWII, and the IRA, is going to be moved by this?? Come on.

Are you telling me they won't be?!?!??!?! WHAT?!?!?! Un-fucking-believable!

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange 3. the attacks were not against innocent civilians. the english just re-elected tony blair. they had a chance to throw him out but they didn't. )

Not even the tumbleweed wants to reply to that. If you knew anything about the UK you'd know blair is probably the lesser of 2 evils (the conservative party appealing only to stuck up rich ****s who want tax cuts) Blair genuinely cares for this country, he nearly had tears in his eyes when giving the speech.

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Originally posted by Yoepus Bah, post-whore! Got in 1 sec before me. Oh well, same analogy but mines was more eloquent Amazing how great minds thing alike eh?

Haha! mine is a bit raw, got some aggression going down! but I've had a couple of scares today with this with family, friends and work colleagues who live in or have visited London today, so I'm quite wound up a bit.

Hopefully though everyone will pull togther and get through this, it's not every countries fault who faces islamic terrorism that the enemy is faceless coward.

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Originally posted by Yoepus To move one of the greatest nations this earth has ever seen by harrasing its citizen in one of the most pathetic attacks witnessed? A nation that withstood IRA, is going to be moved by this??

Of course they will be moved, do you think they will just go on like normal or something?

The IRA's tactics were extremely successful. The worst thing is there nearly impossible to stop. If these groups wanted to bomb london regularly they could do it easily. People of london realise this. I cant see people jumping at the chance of traveling on the train or bus for a long time.

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Originally posted by Q5echo indescriminate mass murder.

Vietnam. The Iraq Invasion.

Edit: You fucking hypocrite, you support the same indiscriminate mass murder.

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Originally posted by Michael19 Of course they will be moved, do you think they will just go on like normal or something?

Yes basically, either that are more anit-islamofacist.

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The IRA's tactics were extremely successful.

I'm sorry it might just be me but I coulda swore Northern Ireland is still in the Kingdom.

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The worst thing is there nearly impossible to stop. If these groups wanted to bomb london regularly they could do it easily. People of london realise this. I cant see people jumping at the chance of traveling on the train or bus for a long time.

The fact that this is the first time that they have been sucessful in bombing London should attest to the fact that it is not as easy as it seems. It is defintely not the first time they have tried to do it, nor do I believe will it be the last one unfortunately.

But so what? 40-50 killed, not even a thousand killed will stop the country! It won't make the UK disappear off this earth and fall into ruin. The UK is a strong nation, you faced much, much worse.

The terrorist will be very sorry for what they have done to you when all is said and done.

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange 2. the attacks were not 'indiscriminate'. see above.

Indiscriminate means they dont care who they kill they just want to kill...

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3. the attacks were not against innocent civilians. the english just re-elected tony blair. they had a chance to throw him out but they didn't.

Do you know how many people get the chance to vote for Tony Blair in the UK? The only people who get to vote for Tony Blair live in his constituency. I vote Labour but I dont get to vote for Tony Blair. Funnily enuf many Labour MPs voted against the war (including the one I voted for IIRC)

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i feel sorry for the people that lost loved ones and the injured, but not the nation (if that's at all possible.)

I feel sorry for your mum and dad not knowing what a condom is

Fuck off cun.t

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Originally posted by Michael19 Of course they will be moved, do you think they will just go on like normal or something? The IRA's tactics were extremely successful. The worst thing is there nearly impossible to stop. If these groups wanted to bomb london regularly they could do it easily. People of london realise this. I cant see people jumping at the chance of traveling on the train or bus for a long time.

I honestly think people will get up tomoz and go about their lives as normal. London was bombed regularly by the IRA they're used to it. Maybe some people wont use public transport for a while but I suspect the vast majority will get on with it like nothing has happened (and I dont mean that like they dont care or anything, its just what the British are like)

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Originally posted by George Smiley I honestly think people will get up tomoz and go about their lives as normal. London was bombed regularly by the IRA they're used to it. Maybe some people wont use public transport for a while but I suspect the vast majority will get on with it like nothing has happened (and I dont mean that like they dont care or anything, its just what the British are like)

The British have balls. (and I mean that in a good way)

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Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Vietnam. The Iraq Invasion. Edit: You fucking hypocrite, you support the same indiscriminate mass murder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot
here's a history lesson for ya there little guy. college hasn't done much for you're respect for history, or lack thereof. take from it what you will.

i will not get into Vietnam and the mistakes made, here.

nor will i ask you to call a random Iraqi National Guardsman or storeowner or stock broker and find out what he thinks about standing up his own country. not here. not now.