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Yoepus
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Registered: Jan 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
sure it makes sense,lets see,everyone including the American people hated Bush before 911 so 911 happens and he becomes the greatest preseident and gains peoples support.So 911 basically saved Bush's ass in the office and also gave him the green light to invade Iraq (war on terror,WMD bullshit).


sure that makes sense, because if some reporter, congress, or cia agent or whoever didn't play their part in this grand conspiracy, Bush would be charged for treason, impeached, and executed.

Thats an awfully great risk to have for an easily compromised endevaour.


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Hey they lie about everything and anything so why not 911?


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Yoepus
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Hey they lie about everything and anything so why not 911?


I bow down before your powerful argumentative skills


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I bow down before your powerful argumentative skills



as if you are ever serious


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ogvh5150
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Registered: Aug 2003
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Originally posted by enferno
yeah and the maerican government aparently knew about the 9/11 attacks.

this kinda thing where the gov. knows some key evidence, but they withold it, doesn't seem logical to me at all


Do you honestly think slaves should know more than they ought to?

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
sure it makes sense,lets see,everyone including the American people hated Bush before 911 so 911 happens and he becomes the greatest preseident and gains peoples support.So 911 basically saved Bush's ass in the office and also gave him the green light to invade Iraq (war on terror,WMD bullshit).


The tail wagging the dog.

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
sure that makes sense, because if some reporter, congress, or cia agent or whoever didn't play their part in this grand conspiracy, Bush would be charged for treason, impeached, and executed.

Thats an awfully great risk to have for an easily compromised endevaour.


Think about it; who stands to gain?

An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our Homeland.
Adolph Hitler

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country.
Hermann Goering

If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.
President G. W. Bush

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught falsehoods in school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.
Plato


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ogvh5150
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Lending weight to the theory is the fact that all four men had paid up their parking tickets before boarding a train at Luton for King's Cross, and that they all bought return tickets to the capital.
The paper said the men were carrying their explosives inside rucksacks, not strapped to their bodies as is common practice among suicide bombers.
None were reported to have cried "Allah Akbar" (God is Greatest) before setting off their charge – something which most Middle Eastern suicide bombers do.

Police suspect bombers tricked

One of the London bombers was investigated by MI5 last year but was deemed not to be a threat, it has been revealed.
Mohammad Sidique Khan, 30, was subject to a routine assessment by the security service because of an indirect connection to an alleged terror plot.

MI5 said bomber was not a threat

The Mossad office in London received advance notice about the attacks, but only six minutes before the first blast, the paper reports, confirming an earlier AP report. As a result, it was impossible to take any action to prevent the blasts.
"They reached us too late for us to do something about it," a Mossad source is quoted as saying.

Mossad tells Brits: Same explosives likely used in Tel Aviv and London blasts


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"The policeman said 'mind that hole, that's where the bomb was'. The metal was pushed upwards as if the bomb was underneath the train. They seem to think the bomb was left in a bag, but I don't remember anybody being where the bomb was, or any bag," he said.
"I was in tube bomb carriage - and survived"


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dennis
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Location: Forest Hills, Queens, NY

It's so weird to see these delusional conspiracy theorist. I'm enjoying the show though, please continue

I heard Bush is profiting from us breathing oxygen, cause he like put nicotine in it, and now we are all addicited to oxygen, and like, his family owns an oxygen factory, so he makes like $2 billion a second from us.

Guys, the story doesent have to be so complicated and far-fecthed. While I admire conspiracy theorist' "quest" for "truth", I dont think it's cool to put a spin on events that ruined many lives, like these attacks, or those of 9/11. After all, delusional ideaology IS where the hatred terrorist have for the west come from.

You could choose to ignore this post, and you probably will, but think about stuff before posting it. I'm not gonna respond to this thread any more, but I will enjoy the mildly entertaining read.

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ogvh5150
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I am saddened by the loss of life anywhere in the world regardless of background. But their names are not going to be lost in vain by what I perceived as a manufactured threat. I do not condone nor support violence of any kind. But I do support fact finding without profit. Since I am not ABCNNBCBS you find it hard to believe what I say or write hence the attacks on my character.

Conspiracy Theory:

Government agents conspire to commit treasonable acts of terror against the general public to sway their opinion against a created enemy to foster a reason to invade that country.

Fact:

Operation Northwoods, a 1962 United States Department of Defense plan to commit acts of terrorism (real and/or simulated) on American tourists in Cuba and blame them on the Castro government to encourage support for an invasion of the country to depose Castro, was long considered to be a groundless conspiracy theory until the project's documents were declassified and published. The operation was approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but was rejected by Defense Secretary Robert McNamara. General Lyman Lemnitzer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, was fired shortly after.

ABC News article on Operation Northwoods
Online copy of Operation Northwoods document
PDF version at George Washington University



Make a more educated reply to something you pretend to know. If you have anything worthwhile to say then your encouraged to say it.

You think it would be easy just to post jack boots at every street corner without merit? I didn't think so. People would complain why there are flak-jacketed police on the corner of Fifth and 57th or in this case Harrod's. But create a situation that warrants police presence then you'll feel safer. People cannot take to shock too easily unless they can be convinced it is for their own good. Hence the bombings. Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis



They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety
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metalgearsolid
I am a sexist



Registered: Apr 2005
Location: For you neo/

so wait a second you are saying that the british gov or american are doing these acts to get the support of the public? man i am pretty surprised thats pretty good thinking by the government.

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ogvh5150
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Location: F1 2008 Red Bull Racing/BMW Sauber

Take it as you may.

How can anyone explain the detonation of military grade explosives?


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metalgearsolid
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Well theres an explanation to that.

You see there are officials who are corrrupt and they prolly sold those grenades in the black market. You can get anything in the black market nowadays.

Were those military grade explosives "british?" or were they coming from lets say Bulgaria. Well anyways like i said black market.

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