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Originally posted by starsearcher ^^ yeah I know that...i'm just saying it's not an iPod...

Yes, that's where I am at too. Though that player does have video, it's not an iPod.

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Oh and just for the record I am an Apple whore

I am too -- though I dont own an Apple laptop or desktop (wish I did though).

~Jem~

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Originally posted by Orko haha, no worries, just wanted to make sure i drove the point home see im really skeptical about that. Current mp3 players can do it too(like the Iriver H320/340), but because the processors are so slow(dont need to be fast to play music), the video play back is crap. On the Iriver you can only play back Xvids @ 10fps @ 280x160 or something small like that. They would have to bump up the processor speed a lot to let it handle videos, and that would just kill the battery!

Ahhhhhhhh, draw back! Oh well, one can dream.... now that I think about it, what a drain indeed it would place on the battery! Yikes!

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These Sony products are kicking the iPods' ass in Japan right now.

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Originally posted by The Highroller These Sony products are kicking the iPods' ass in Japan right now.

its about time Sony woke up. They were getting killed in the global market for so long. The problem is, its all proprietary technology, and they don't want to merge with other companies, always want to stand on their own. I think it really hurt them.

They also have special circumstances to deal with, because they own a major record label. They have to deal with the politics of fighting piracy on one hand, and then making players which are compatible with that piracy on the other hand

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Originally posted by Orko its about time Sony woke up. They were getting killed in the global market for so long. The problem is, its all proprietary technology, and they don't want to merge with other companies, always want to stand on their own. I think it really hurt them. They also have special circumstances to deal with, because they own a major record label. They have to deal with the politics of fighting piracy on one hand, and then making players which are compatible with that piracy on the other hand

I suppose that can be tricky, eh?


And Graham: Don't like them...

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar And Graham: Don't like them...

Why? They have much longer battery life and screens.

speaking of battery life:

iRiver iFP-790

40 hours!!!1

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar I suppose that can be tricky, eh?

tricky? hell ya. I remember they came out with the first tiny player with 20 gigs, ipod mini size, but with 20gigs. Only problem was, it only played Sony's mp3 format. So you either had to transcode everything, or re-rip all your cds. Pain in the ass! One of my friends bought it, against my recomendation, and he broke, and was fine with that. He now has an Iriver, and is happier.

The fact is, they tried to make both hands happy, this way, you couldnt play downloaded music on it, very easily, but the end user was so frustrated it didnt matter.

Sony is starting to turn around though. The impact of iTunes has helped, so Sony launched its own music purchasing program, not very successfull at this point in time. They have got to see the big picture.

There are lots of smaller companies like Iriver and Achros coming out with very functional players at decent prices, because the technology is now cheap. They cannot afford to stand alone anymore, the globalized market no longer works like that.

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Originally posted by The Highroller Why? They have much longer battery life and screens.

But they dont look attractive and I very much dont like the design. I need a balance of both: something I am pleased with aesthetically, that also has the funactionality that I want/need.

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar But they dont look attractive and I very much dont like the design. I need a balance of both: something I am pleased with aesthetically, that also has the funactionality that I want/need. ~Jem~

i just looked at their website, and looked at the photos, i really liked the way the screen looked, so futuristic

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Originally posted by Orko i just looked at their website, and looked at the photos, i really liked the way the screen looked, so futuristic

Actually I suppose your right... they're are pretty cool looking upon closer inspection... and they do indeed look futuristic...

Okay, sorry Graham, I've changed my opinion upson closer reflection....

They are a nifty little mp3 player. *apologies*

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar But they dont look attractive and I very much dont like the design. I need a balance of both: something I am pleased with aesthetically, that also has the funactionality that I want/need. ~Jem~

I guess it depends what you're looking for in a playback device. I myself do not care about how it looks. I'm not buying it for looks. I'm buying it for it's "quality". I consider the Sony a "higher quality" product because it has longer battery life (~70hrs?) and a screen. The iPod shuffle has neither of these.

Granted, the Sony product is $80 more expensive, but that is 80 I'm willing to pay considering the extra features the Sony product has.

whores!

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