What's the difference? It costs me money and effort and hardware to make my product just like BMW does. And as long as i state: I dont want you to get it unless i get a really small fee (whats 1 euro!), and you get it for free, you stole me one euro. Wheather it has some good side effects as well, i still think it is stealing if you really enjoy that music.

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Originally posted by Benno de Goeij What's the difference? It costs me money and effort and hardware to make my product just like BMW does.

So we're going to stuff the pockets of some random guy who downloaded Reason off some warez site to make the next ASOT hit? No thanks.

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Huh? That's the weirdest reason for free download i have heard so far!
But what if he does have legal license?

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Originally posted by Benno de Goeij Huh? That's the weirdest reason for free download i have heard so far! But what if he does have legal license?

You're missing my point. We don't know if a person actually spent time, effort and money to make a track, so your argument doesn't cut it.

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Ah okay I missed that clearly!
But what about the guys who buy their gear and don't use warez for producing?

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Originally posted by Benno de Goeij But what about the guys who buy their gear and don't use warez for producing?

And how do we know that? And what about those that do not?

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hey Benno...thanks for stopping by...


here is my opinion on this whole thing...


personally of course i've used illegal peer 2 peer exchange in the past, i think most of us have. however, i fall into that category of people that use it to preview and search for what i want to buy. and actually...i've grown out of that habit entirely...i can't remember the last time i downloaded a tune, literally probably over a year and a half ago. i think the main reason for that was because i found it so much more conveinent to listen to samples of tunes at online record shops ala juno etc. so that's how i find tunes these days...much better than peer 2 peer because i literally can sample and listen to just about everything that is ever released instead of what is popular with the majority of people and that suits my purposes great.

as far as the topic of legal mp3s and the like. i've always held a position against it, but who knows how i'll feel in the future. i guess i've always taken the attitude that i like to buy something tangible and of course i am just a record collector. i think that also has a lot to do with my thoughts on djing. am i against pros like yourself or sasha or ritchie hawtin or zabiela or anyother successful dj using software programs like ableton or final scratch? no...not at all, i've recently seen sasha and zabiela among others and they were great shows, but i kind of feel that someone starting out should learn to dj with vinyl. and that's really just my personal preference because i think there is something to that...sort of once you know how to dj with traditional means, well, you can kind of do what you want...but like i said that's just more a personal opinion...

anyway...thanks for stopping by the boards. its good to get some professional opinions on the subject...

That's an argument like: hey i can steal that X5, because the owner might be a thief too.

I try to do the right thing, what others do is their business.

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Originally posted by Benno de Goeij That's an argument like: hey i can steal that X5, because the owner might be a thief too.

Actually, it's more like "why should I give that guy my money when he has done nothing to deserve it?"

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Actually, it's more like "why should I give that guy my money when he has done nothing to deserve it?"

If you enjoy it you apparently like what he does! So he IS doing something right IMO. And how much time he spent doesn't interest me much. If Bono write's a good song in 5 minutes, I'll praise him even more!

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Originally posted by Benno de Goeij If you enjoy it you apparently like what he does!

Who says I am?

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