Wait a second TX your friend wants you to be a freemason?! Why are you not going to join!! Do you not realize the mistake you are making by not joining? You can become really powerful and rich. That is what everyone wants. You can still be against them. In fact you can be like Angel. You join wolfram and heart and you destroy them from within because they are evil.

I serioulsy am ashame of you TX. I thought you were smarter than that. But I against you can live your life the own way you want to. I mean seriously you can waste away reading lots of books and improving yourself. But you won't ever get a chance to know the truth of the freemasons. Not unless you all ready know everything about them. Which I highly doubt you do.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid No I am way beyond there. So is anyone else watching the program about secret societies on the history channel? Brings back my memory about this thread. I just wanted to bring out maybe we should start our own secret society ......no that would never work out with so many different charecters. I believe the bilderberg are the most powerful however there must be another secret society controling that one.

If you've seen that then see an episode of the Simpsons called "The Great Homer" where he joins a secret society called the Stonecutters. What a trip.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid You know all these secret societies have in common is that they are a bunch of white peeps seeking world domination. Btw TX you said you had relatives working with the CIA are any of them stonemasons??

I don't believe they're all white. They're more luciferian than white. Sounds religious but with religious undertones in secret societies what can you expect? A guy who swears secrecy to his "boys club" whilst lying in a coffin naked sounds occultic to me.

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Originally posted by Lopitrance I think these societies do exist, but I also think they do not have ABSOULTE control over world events... There are always people that wont go along aren't there?

You're right there is no conspiracy if it's out in the open.

Found this rather quick:

60% Of U.S. Believe Life Exists On Other Planets

No one has held a poll, that I can find, if people believe secret societies exist. But they do believe in little green men from outer space.

Taken from an online article:
A truly secret society tries to hide the fact that it exists, and certainly conceals the identity of its members.

There was a conspiracy that claimed Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. To this date none have been found.

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Before the War: Archived: Oil from Iraq: An Israeli pipedream? How Western greed created Hussein's Iraq Israeli Intel given to US: Exclusive: Saddam key in early CIA plot The Devil in the Details: The CIA and Saddam Hussein How the CIA put the Baath in power CIA report finds no Zarqawi-Saddam link (1998) Officials: Iran Messages About Anti-Saddam Plot Led to FBI Probe of CIA After the War: 1500+ Dead GI's click 15,000+ Dead civilians click 0 Weapons of Mass Destruction Official: U.S. calls off search for Iraqi WMDs(Jan 2005) CIAs final report: No WMD found in Iraq(Apr 2005) Iraq WMD Hunt 'Has Been Exhausted'(Apr 2005) U.S. study: Iraq likely didn't ship WMD to Syria(Apr 2005) US closes book on Iraq WMD hunt(Apr 2005) All warfare is based on deception Sun Tzu The more you read and learn, the less your adversary will know Sun Tzu Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave Frederick Douglass All the worlds a stage. Shakespeare

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Wait a second TX your friend wants you to be a freemason?! Why are you not going to join!! Do you not realize the mistake you are making by not joining? You can become really powerful and rich. That is what everyone wants. You can still be against them. In fact you can be like Angel. You join wolfram and heart and you destroy them from within because they are evil. I serioulsy am ashame of you TX. I thought you were smarter than that. But I against you can live your life the own way you want to. I mean seriously you can waste away reading lots of books and improving yourself. But you won't ever get a chance to know the truth of the freemasons. Not unless you all ready know everything about them. Which I highly doubt you do.

LOL

I personally choose to avoid the daily rat-race of material worship.


Anyway, I've read enough from Albert Pike and Manly P. Hall to know better than to get involved in Freemsonry.

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Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls light, and draw them away from it. - Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma p. 104

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Freemasonry is a fraternity within a fraternity -- an outer organization concealing an inner brotherhood of the elect ... it is necessary to establish the existence of these two separate and yet interdependent orders, the one visible and the other invisible. The visible society is a splendid camaraderie of 'free and accepted' men enjoined to devote themselves to ethical, educational, fraternal, patriotic, and humanitarian concerns. The invisible society is a secret and most August fraternity whose members are dedicated to the service of a mysterious arcannum arcandrum. - Manly P. Hall, Lectures on Ancient Philosophy, p. 433

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When a Mason learns the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy. - Manly P. Hall, The Lost Keys To Freemasonry, p. 48

Did I mention where a n00b freemason has to lie naked in a coffin?


I did? Oh well carry on.

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Hey uh TX so what you are saying is that some freemasons can do witchcraft? I mean is that really possible for someone to do? Humans can not do that I at least think they can't. But quite possibly I am wrong. Thats it TX join the freemasons so you can make me a member I want to learn how to do freaky stuff with my mind.

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However to allay any conspiracy enthusiasts, it should be clearly stated that PRS is an entirely separate and independent organization with no links to the Masonic movement. Surely it must be a measure of the man, that Mr. Hall never used PRS as a recruiting station for Masonic membership, and what he held important was the inner philosophical tradition of Masonry.

http://www.prs.org/mphbio.htm

Right that link is crap^
OGVH yes yo did mention the naked part...??
OMG Mozart was in the freemasons fuck!

My senior year I joined Skull and Bones, a secret society, so secret, I can't say anything more.

Dubya

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Yeah I have heard that before in fact it was on the show last night. Which leads me to believe that this thread has the same title as the show. Meaning this thread started due to that show.

Anyway I still intend on creating my little secret society so secret I can't say anymore

Trance-X's avatar is going to make someone have an epilleptic seizure one day.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Hey uh TX so what you are saying is that some freemasons can do witchcraft?

Well, I don't want to speculate on something in which I have little to no clue - but on the other hand, I DO know that modern Freemasonry has incorporated many of the signs and symbols found in both Enochian and Kabbalistic Magic. I think that it has more to do with Theurgy than actual "witchcraft," per se, but then again I am currently clueless in regards to that knowledge.

However, I have noticed that some of the fastest rising Freemasons boasted well developed, esoteric backgrounds. One of the more prominent occultists was none other than Aleister_Crowley

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Don Jesus Medina, a descendant of the great duke of Armada fame, and one of the highest chiefs of Scottish Rite free-masonry. My cabbalistic knowledge being already profound by current standards, he thought me worthy of the highest initiation in his power to confer; special powers were obtained in view of my limited sojourn, and I was pushed rapidly through and admitted to the thirty-third and last degree before I left the country. - The Confessions of Aleister Crowley (1969), pp. 202-203.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Yeah I have heard that before in fact it was on the show last night. Which leads me to believe that this thread has the same title as the show. Meaning this thread started due to that show. Anyway I still intend on creating my little secret society so secret I can't say anymore

I don't want to see you in a coffin naked telling me your sexual secrets.

We can meet in various cities in Europe once a year and have a meeting in the US every four or five years. But the thing is I don't have any airfare. Can we get a travel fund going so we can span the globe? I'd really like to secretly run China. A good puppetmaster I would be. The rest of us can argue at the meeting over who owns what while we carve it out. But we'd have to control industry and banking.

Without that we are just blowing smoke.

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Originally posted LOL Anyway, I've read enough from Albert Pike and Manly P. Hall to know better than to get involved in Freemsonry.

on a side note, I thought this was pretty interesting in regards to the statue of Albert Pike which is located in Washington, DC:

http://www.dcist.com/archives/2005/...en_--_oh_my.php

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Did I mention where a n00b freemason has to lie naked in a coffin? I did? Oh well carry on.

They do that in Skull & Bones.