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Originally posted by Heidi_Fleiss Look, 'at the end of the day' (as woggy as that sounds), Majik are onto something big, and have been, for the past few years. Regardless of your 'refined' views of them, they have continued to run one of, if not, THE most successful Saturday nights in Melbourne. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is a great paradigm of indication The things that are in store in the future...Well, those who 'trash', would sure be eating that trash....Pay respect where its due. Having said that, I'd also like to see anybody else match this succession, particularly those who SLAG.

I don't affiliate with Zos or Majik, nor do I particularly like their music policy or what they set out to represent as you know, but you are right; no one can deny the 'success' of the majik brand.

Any person or people, who can fill a venue every weekend, week in week out for years, deserve some respect regardless of music genre, and to a point have mine.

I’m not just talking about just a normal regular crowd either, these punters are up for it, have a passion and loyalty to their music and to the dj's that play it. Now that deserves respect in itself.

What you have to appreciate is that people’s lack of respect or disdain for majik etc doesn’t come from the fact that it happens to be a successful and pumping night, most peoples lack of appreciation comes from a dislike of the egotistical attitude of the clubbers who regularly attend these nights and the 'macho' mentality it has brought to the greater trance scene in general.
There is a stigma attached to such nights for a reason, not because of its popularity or success, or even for its music genre... it’s simply because of the 'general' (i appreciate there are exceptions) attitude of its clubbers.

I am sure that everyone is onto something bigger and better, but "at the end of the day" even though money is an indication of success, im sure a lot of people would agree with me when I say that a safe, positive and fun vibe is not something that can be measured on a monteary scale and these are the things that will lead to greater longevity (the 'real' measure of success).

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Originally posted by vitamin v Bass in Footscray!! Now that's cool

omg getting closer to my house, i like where this is going.

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Well said Vi!!! I could not agree more

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Damn well said Vitamin.

I used to live in Geelong (did my degree down there). Usually went out every weekend, pubs and what they call clubs down there. Every single time I'd go out there'd be a fight, every time.

I like my clubs (underground, raver) because we don't get fights, we don't get agro. I don't go to the upper crust clubs for two reasons, agro and a very obvious superiority complex of a lot of the people. If people want to go out and be "seen" thats their perogative, but don't bring that shit to the clubs I like.

Cheers

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Originally posted by vitamin v I don't affiliate with Zos or Majik, nor do I particularly like their music policy or what they set out to represent as you know, but you are right; no one can deny the 'success' of the majik brand. Any person or people, who can fill a venue every weekend, week in week out for years, deserve some respect regardless of music genre, and to a point have mine. I’m not just talking about just a normal regular crowd either, these punters are up for it, have a passion and loyalty to their music and to the dj's that play it. Now that deserves respect in itself. What you have to appreciate is that people’s lack of respect or disdain for majik etc doesn’t come from the fact that it happens to be a successful and pumping night, most peoples lack of appreciation comes from a dislike of the egotistical attitude of the clubbers who regularly attend these nights and the 'macho' mentality it has brought to the greater trance scene in general. There is a stigma attached to such nights for a reason, not because of its popularity or success, or even for its music genre... it’s simply because of the 'general' (i appreciate there are exceptions) attitude of its clubbers. I am sure that everyone is onto something bigger and better, but "at the end of the day" even though money is an indication of success, im sure a lot of people would agree with me when I say that a safe, positive and fun vibe is not something that can be measured on a monteary scale and these are the things that will lead to greater longevity (the 'real' measure of success).

V, that's fair enough if you genuinely DON'T LIKE the music. You diss the club for the punters who went there - and that was just a minority - not EVERYONE who went there had an 'egotistical attitude' or 'macho' mentality', as you put it - and ZOS was not the ONLY club in Melbourne with such punters of that standard.

So are you saying IF a 'trancey' event was full of people like that you wouldn't go, just because of the crowd???

At the end of the day it really is ALL about LOVE of the MUSIC. I too am up for a positive & fun vibe but, like i've said before you get your GOOD, BAD & UGLY EVERYWHERE

I've seen the best and worst of ALL sorts of people at so many different parties. Hey, ravers aren't exactly my cup of tea, but i don't let them bother me & I don't judge them for who they are. If they're rocking and loving the music, so let it be.

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Originally posted by charlee Vote 1 - Munter Party

+1

Nothing like a bit of spice, espcially on a forum like this lol

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Originally posted by AnitA You diss the club for the punters who went there - and that was just a minority - not EVERYONE who went there had an 'egotistical attitude' or 'macho' mentality', as you put it - and ZOS was not the ONLY club in Melbourne with such punters of that standard.

but like all things, the minority can just as easily seem like the majority because they are so 'in-your-face'.

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Originally posted by matt.h but like all things, the minority can just as easily seem like the majority because they are so 'in-your-face'.

Exactly Matt. Vi is spot on with her post

On a serious note, does this also mean no more Twister Saturdays?! Devastated.

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Matt you have a point, seems there are just way TOO many UGLY c**** out there in everyone's face EVERYWHERE!!!

LOL @ Twister Saturdays. *vomit*

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Originally posted by AnitA LOL @ Twister Saturdays. *vomit*

It aint that bad, I've been afew times and had a good night! Try and get out abit to different nights, it all cant be about Trance!