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Tech0rz
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Above the Clouds
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Interesting points.
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
I dont know if I necessarily disagree with the guy footing the bill, etc...
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You shouldn't go to restaurant for at least the first 5 meetings. It is just too formal, and unless you are actually willing to foot the bill, it just isn't worth getting into the 'Who pays for what' scenario until you are at least familiar with her attitude towards it. Orbax has the right idea with doing fun things, that you can both relax doing.
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
I think it needs to be YOUR decision to take them out once you feel like making the next step.
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Good point. You should always be the decisive one. Example, never call a women and then she says "So what are we going to do?", then you say "I don't know, what do you want to do". You may aswell have not called. You need to PLAN what you're going to do, and where you're going to go.
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
The old saying of "men choose, women decide" has become more of a "keep on pressing until they get fucked up enough to make some bad decisions with you" and thats bullshit.
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The only reason "Men choose and women decide" is because men almost ALWAYS feel they need to get the approval of the women, it's instinct and goes back to the dawn of time. Just watch the animal kingdom documentaries on Discovery etc. That displays how not to act. It may seem illogical, but trust me, you know by now women are too. You need to be the selector, not the selected.
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Sep-19-2005 18:35
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Orbax
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Apr 2002
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| quote: | Originally posted by Tech0rz
Good point. You should always be the decisive one. Example, never call a women and then she says "So what are we going to do?", then you say "I don't know, what do you want to do". You may aswell have not called. You need to PLAN what you're going to do, and where you're going to go. |
yeah, its something that Ive just gotten used to from hanging out with people who dont like just saying what they want to do hehe. I get a lot of compliments when someone asks whats up "lets go into town, grab some coffee and a sandwich and then head out to marymoore and rock climb for a bit, maybe play some frisbee, then head over to Queen Anne, grab some asian food and take it up to the park and hang out there and eat..." just generic stuff, but people seem to fail to recognize that, however gay it sounds, that when you are hanging out even with your male friends that the most important factor going on is "spending time" together!
Its not what you do, but how quality you make the time spent together. Talks and thoughts, screwing around...humans like interacting, so give them the chance to open up and be themselves around you. Only time does that 
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The only reason "Men choose and women decide" is because men almost ALWAYS feel they need to get the approval of the women, it's instinct and goes back to the dawn of time. Just watch the animal kingdom documentaries on Discovery etc. That displays how not to act. It may seem illogical, but trust me, you know by now women are too. You need to be the selector, not the selected. |
What I meant by that was that you do something like reaching out and holding their hand while you are walking and then at one point you break off the grip to do something like point, grab something out of your pack (camera so you can take a picture of her ) or whatever and then start going again and see if they are proactive after that...
I mean, Im not saying holding hands is this key to the universe haha, its just a convenient example, but mainly do something and see if they reciprocate. Ive had too many talks with guys and every guy thinks girls fucking hate them if they dont touch us. Just the way it works, they gotta send some back you know
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Sep-19-2005 18:43
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Spacey Orange
still loves trance.

Registered: Jul 2004
Location: California
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Sep-19-2005 19:06
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