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Originally posted by canadian didjer there is some actullay GOOD artists out there... or even in the mainstream scene (black eyed peas, beastie boys, k-os, the fugees).

ouch! i agree with you on most thing but, ouch, what a poor choice of artists representing good mainstream hip-hop ..

but i'm not going to start anything since you seem to support the whole "blend different genres"-thing.

don't forget that jazz evolved as a mix of the music of african slaves together with the instruments of america.

50 cent blows, fuck g-unit. young jeezy's no better: patty cake, patty cake, MICROWAVE??

lol, i died laughing when i heard that song



mikkkke jowwwwwn. who? MIKE JAWWWWWWWNNNS



you gotta dig deeper to find quality stuff... anybody heard of immortal technique? tonedeff?

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i may have heard of tone deff, haven't heard any of their music though.... any of you guys posted a remix??? (those who actually wanted to) [bashers gtfo... lolz]

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Originally posted by Axolotyl .....I'd have a go, but I make psytrance, and well... it would just sound rediculous. And no... industrial and by that lineage goa or psy never came from hip hop or techno or anything like that. Completely different origins.

btw if you did something like infected mushroom's converting vegetarians song (for the remix)... it would sound killer... have you heard that album??

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Originally posted by expanded Wow, have you EVER heard any good beats??? And no, i don't mean those regular beats containing 1 60-70's ska/disco sample looped over and over again... There are few beatmakers out there knowing their shit, and since you (i assume haven't heard it) don't know ... it's best to keep you mouth shut about something you don't know jack about... Saying that hip-hop isn't musical is like when ignorant shitheads says that's trance is all about pushing a couple of buttons and you've got your song... clearly you lack enjoying/hearing what's musical and not... and for that i feel sorry for you man... however... if i miss understood you, and you said that hip-hop doesn't offer YOU anything... then it's all good cuz people can't enjoy every single style which is out there.

Ok , now I know your definition of music then, fire arm shots , screams , "you die b*tch" choruses, lack of chord progressions , Deep Basses that lack of recognizable pitch , and a genre that without vocals wouldn't exist because the "music" itself wouldn't keep up with the expectations.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not a narrow minded who only listens to trance, I listen to New Age, Ambient, Classical music, salsa, hell even opera man, and I can tell you now none of them can be beaten musically by hip hop, and I'm not gonna tell you to shut the f*ck up like many persons here who don't respect people's point of view, I wouldn't go as low as that.

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Originally posted by PDM Ok , now I know your definition of music then, fire arm shots , screams , "you die b*tch" choruses

that's pretty ignorant man... i expected better judgement from you.

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Originally posted by PDM I'm not a narrow minded

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Originally posted by PDM Ok , now I know your definition of music then, fire arm shots , screams , "you die b*tch" choruses, lack of chord progressions , Deep Basses that lack of recognizable pitch , and a genre that without vocals wouldn't exist because the "music" itself wouldn't keep up with the expectations. And don't get me wrong, I'm not a narrow minded who only listens to trance, I listen to New Age, Ambient, Classical music, salsa, hell even opera man, and I can tell you now none of them can be beaten musically by hip hop, and I'm not gonna tell you to shut the f*ck up like many persons here who don't respect people's point of view, I wouldn't go as low as that.

I laught @ man...

seriously DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING AT ALL??? noo... you don't know me!

Anyway... this says it all... hehe. I don't wanna fight...

Peace out all... *poff*

Oh and no... i don't listen to "you die b*tch" choruses, lack of chord progressions , Deep Basses that lack of recognizable pitch , and a genre that without vocals wouldn't exist because the "music" itself wouldn't keep up with the expectations.


This is what i DO & listen to: Mixdown_14oct.mp3

Last edited by expanded on Oct-14-2005 at 20:21

JJooo...

I have travelled far and through both time and genres... I'll give it a try...

For ever lasting, the roughness of time... Ghost of Mozart

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Originally posted by expanded I laught @ man... seriously DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING AT ALL??? noo... you don't know me! Anyway... this says it all... hehe. I don't wanna fight... Peace out all... *poff* Oh and no... i don't listen to "you die b*tch" choruses, lack of chord progressions , Deep Basses that lack of recognizable pitch , and a genre that without vocals wouldn't exist because the "music" itself wouldn't keep up with the expectations. This is what i DO & listen to: Mixdown_14oct.mp3

Yeah that mp3 you shared there is a real musical composition.

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Originally posted by EtherealSL that's pretty ignorant man... i expected better judgement from you. ...

Why did you cut the argument, I believe I posted more than that. Now who is the ignorant.... and so you know, I'm arguing about hip hop, not R & B and other genres that many people find them similar to each other when is not.

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Originally posted by andreas1999 i am sooooo tempted to write something along the lines of "you're a f**king retard" but i'm not going to. you're wrong, though. if you've been studying classical guitar for 8 years I guess that gives you more than "lil skilz"? so get to it then. next post i suggest you post your latest hip-hop tune or stfu.

What a retard, dont you see he is refering to all?, not him, it was so obvious, why he would waste his time producing some crappy hip hop when he can produce orchestral music or any genre he wants? besides obviously he hates Hip hop, doh!.
I will explain you just what he said:

Go to the center, pick up 10 guys, give them a sampler, a beatbox and ask them to try to do hip hop, I ensure you in 2 months you will listen some tunes, now take the same 10 guys, give them a cello, viollin, even better, ask them to write a score and in 2 months you will see they dont have nothing.
Plz, stop showing ous the lack of arguments from your part and stfu my hypocrital friend.

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Stop arguing. Being elitist about one form of music is being narrow-minded just like being racist.

Please. Thanks



I'll try to take a stab at one of the tracks if I find time.

Also, would it be possible by any chance to post up lyrics? Thanks.