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Registered: May 2002
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Re: Re: Of course I'm serious!

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Originally posted by Synthesia
99% of the population huh


Yup.

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Isn't everything one does based on logic or reason, perhaps I should add mislogic and misconception/interpretation too. If you just believe anything or show sheepish behaviour by following others without knowing why I think you're quite helpless. If I believe it is right to kill someone then everybody should respect my belief and if not they will burn in hell will they? Hahaha...stop following the masses and the brains of others but use your own and hopefully you will come to some sort of realisation.


No, everything we do is based on faith, and if you don't respect that faith is just as good a reason for doing something as logic, then you're wrongfully biased against us (99% of the people in the world.)

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And about being treated equally I agree, everybody should be treated equally..Muslim women should be treated equally as Western women.


Of course they should, by which I mean they should be equally subject to the faith-based rules and practices in the communities that they are a part of.

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Btw my first 2 questions have still not been answered in my first post...Can't they? Or do they make too much logical sense that they can not be argued against?


There you go again, people like you are always trying to twist other people's beliefs into some some sort of logical arrangement. You try to pretend that you respect the equality of us religious people but then challenge us to fit our bleiefs into your two-dimensional conception of logic.

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Synthesia
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Registered: Jun 2005
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Haha the funny man is back

I feel like I'm ridiculing myself by trying to convince somebody that not 99% of the population is religious...

2-dimensional line of concept haha...I think I'm one of the most open-minded persons there is (around all subjects)...who here is 2 dimensional..you've immediately categorised me as a non-religious person who is an intolerant asshole because I think logically and act rationally.

Again I could pull your arguments apart easily...and you're startin to contradict yourself...you're not going to convince me that everything you do is based on faith..if you drink some water when you're thirsty are you doing this because of your faith? If you are at work trying to earn money are you doing this for faith? No, exactly.

And sorry here we have a different opinion altogether..I can not agree with a faith-based rule undermining women...you're implying that women SHOULD wear those head-scarfs because they believe are part of this faith-based community? Its not wonder that many actually start believing themselves when they are forced to believe these things from young ages and are indoctrinated in this way, against nature really - covering up hair and in some cases everything..

Oh and stop winding round the pot because you can't answer my questions in my first post

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Originally posted by Synthesia
2-dimensional line of concept haha...I think I'm one of the most open-minded persons there is (around all subjects)...who here is 2 dimensional..you've immediately categorised me as a non-religious person who is an intolerant asshole because I think logically and act rationally.


Well you're obviously non-religious because being religious isn't exactly rational, is it? As for being an intolerant asshole - just read your own posts. You think you should be able to tell other people what parts of their religion they should be allowed to practice!

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Again I could pull your arguments apart easily...and you're startin to contradict yourself...you're not going to convince me that everything you do is based on faith..if you drink some water when you're thirsty are you doing this because of your faith? If you are at work trying to earn money are you doing this for faith? No, exactly.


I had a ham and cheese sandwich for lunch because I have faith that God wanted me to.

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And sorry here we have a different opinion altogether..I can not agree with a faith-based rule undermining women...you're implying that women SHOULD wear those head-scarfs because they believe are part of this faith-based community? Its not wonder that many actually start believing themselves when they are forced to believe these things from young ages and are indoctrinated in this way, against nature really - covering up hair and in some cases everything..


So people are only allowed to believe things you approve of? And if they believe something else, they must have been brainwashed as a child, right? And you wonder why I call you an intolerant asshole?!?!

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Originally posted by Arbiter


1. i assume that as a human being, you have eyes, ears, a nose, a mouth, nerves and a mind (among other parts of your body) that all allow you to perceive events.

2. you also have some way in which you perceive what god wants you to do.

these two sentences can and often do contradict each other.

the first one is universal to all human beings (and other creatures).
the latter one is not universal to all human beings, or at least not documented to be.

why do you choose the latter?


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Synthesia
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Well you're obviously non-religious because being religious isn't exactly rational, is it? As for being an intolerant asshole - just read your own posts. You think you should be able to tell other people what parts of their religion they should be allowed to practice!



I had a ham and cheese sandwich for lunch because I have faith that God wanted me to.



So people are only allowed to believe things you approve of? And if they believe something else, they must have been brainwashed as a child, right? And you wonder why I call you an intolerant asshole?!?!


I'm sorry you don't just make me laugh...you make me feel pitiful on you.

I do think that rationally minded people who can distinguish wrong from right are allowed to inform and teach others that seeing women as inferior beings and slaves to men to bear as many children for them as possible is not the way it should be - and if your 'faith' tells you otherwise then that leads me to question it, btw...who made that 'faith', it was all done by other people and human beings..and what does history teach you, can humans be trusted? Ah well I hope some day you will come to some sort of self-realisation and meditate on this rather than acting like sheep and being very naive.

Interesting that you eat because God wants you to eat Does he also tell you what time to eat and what to eat? Thats quite a materialistic God we are talking about huh What you are saying is that you can justify everything by saying God wanted you to do that...I think thats very coward-like...aren't you responsible enough for your own actions?

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